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Old 02-07-2015, 01:33 AM
 
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I couldn't find a link for this story, but was just reported on KATU Portland; Judge just ruled that 51 year old man did not commit crime when he took a photo of 12 year old girl at Oregon Target store.

WHAT??????????????? What has happened to society that would put up with this? Where is the common sense that would stop this invasive, disgusting crime? It's not a crime says Supreme Court. So it's just a man taking a picture. No more, no less.



No felony crime against video voyeurism in OR | Local & Regional | KATU.com - Portland News, Sports, Traffic Weather and Breaking News - Portland, Oregon

This is actually another case, but it was this news channel that I saw the story.

Sometimes I think computers do too much. Man has let computers do so much of their thinking,
he has lost his ability to think. Computers do not have common sense. "Use it or lose it".
Generations to come are going to wonder what the hey was up with a society that says it's OK to stick a camera up a little girl's dress.
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Old 02-07-2015, 02:11 AM
 
Location: Tucson, AZ
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Actually, he was a wise elder man of 61 years. You know the generation that is so much better than the current one.

Either that or this is the 40 yo perv in Albany with the 24 yo girl.

Up until a few years ago man-horse relations were a totally legal thing in Oregon, and Washington. Oregonians are very anti common sense, wishy-washy, and obtuse. Most Oregonians would wear tin foil hats but they are too lazy to make them.

Remember this is the state that allowed a group of sex offenders to attend a Ducks game where one escaped and violently raped a woman in a parking lot.

I could go on about the idiocy of my beloved state, but I won't. I actually wasn't surprised. I'm surprised grandpa pervy didn't sue Target and get money out of the deal. After all 13 year old girls in skirt do frequent Target it could be argued that Target is at fault here.....It can't... but in Oregon it probably could. I mean if someone can sue Safeway and win 200k over cuting themselves on a knife that was 'carelessly left out' on top of a stockers cart it quite obvious this state lacks common sense.
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Old 02-07-2015, 03:16 AM
 
Location: Southern New Hampshire
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Here's a link: Taking photos up girl's skirt at Beaverton Target: Appalling, but not a crime, judge rules | OregonLive.com .

Sounds like the judge was incredibly frustrated too.
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Old 02-07-2015, 05:16 AM
 
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Thanks for the link. you would think a girl/woman should be able to expect privacy up her skirt.
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Old 02-07-2015, 05:38 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Well, at least the creeper's name and picture was released so the court of public opinion knows who to find guilty.
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Old 02-07-2015, 06:07 AM
 
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Maybe this is something the "people" need to take care. While I am not a huge fan of vidulanteism (not sure if that is a word), like for instance if a person sees someone sticking their cell phone up a woman's skirt, kick the hand with cell phone so hard that the the phone flies some distance before it is smashed to smitherines! Hopefully his aching hand and broken phone might give him an idea what he was doing is a no-no. Something needs done now.
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Old 02-07-2015, 06:07 AM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Seems like a defect in the law. I'd agree, women have a reasonable expectation not to have someone stick a camera between their legs. That's a little different than past cases that have come up here like the DC sleaze who was taking panty shots of women sitting on the National Monument among others. Basically, plainview doctrine. The defect in the law is the requirement of nudity.
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Old 02-07-2015, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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This is pretty gross and perverted. It's not like some kids were doing it to other kids just to be funny.
This PERV was doing it for a sexual gratification. He needs a beating and we will photograph that.
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Old 02-07-2015, 08:47 AM
 
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Here's what to do about this, since the law is obviously flawed.
Take a cell phone picture of the perv doing the upskirt photo and post it far and wide all over social media.

Social media can do some good, maybe that's what it takes.
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Old 02-07-2015, 09:46 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Target needs more staff, so they can check the changing rooms regularly. Why wasn't a middle-aged man heading into the women's changing area spotted by staff and stopped?
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