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Old 03-02-2015, 11:14 AM
 
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The Left, as usual, cannot admit what is going on, so it tries to obscure accurate descriptive terms of suspects simply because suspects of their favored victim group are more common in proportion to total population.
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Old 03-02-2015, 11:43 AM
 
Location: H-Tine, Texas
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The Left, as usual, cannot admit what is going on, so it tries to obscure accurate descriptive terms of suspects simply because suspects of their favored victim group are more common in proportion to total population.
Which crimes are we talking about?

If we're talking about:

Rape - especially on a college campus
Aggravated Assault
Burglary
Larceny-theft
GTA
Arson
Other sex offenses


Then no, the "favored victim group" of The Left would not be the group that fits that description.
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Old 03-02-2015, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Southern MN
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The Left, as usual, cannot admit what is going on, so it tries to obscure accurate descriptive terms of suspects simply because suspects of their favored victim group are more common in proportion to total population.
That's what it sounds like they are saying to me, too.

If we reported the number of crimes committed by Black people on campus it would reinforce a stereotype.

I don't think they meant to imply what that says, but that's what my reading ear hears.
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Old 03-02-2015, 12:19 PM
 
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Which crimes are we talking about?

If we're talking about:

Rape - especially on a college campus
Aggravated Assault
Burglary
Larceny-theft
GTA
Arson
Other sex offenses


Then no, the "favored victim group" of The Left would not be the group that fits that description.
And in those cases, we have a full description of the suspects, yes?

Yes. We do.
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Old 03-02-2015, 12:32 PM
 
Location: H-Tine, Texas
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And in those cases, we have a full description of the suspects, yes?

Yes. We do.
I'm not sure what you're getting at?

You backdoor-claimed that "The Left" doesn't want to admit that suspects in crime are usually black, which according to FBI Crime Stats, is not the case in the majority of crimes in this country, including the ones I listed above, especially rape.
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Old 03-02-2015, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Montana
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Assuming the description of a perp is accurate (and granted, it isn't always, but the victim description is normally the best initial info source) then using race and gender becomes a significant force multiplier for the police.

From the census: USA QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau

62.6% of the population is white, so "white male" eliminates 68.7% of the population as a suspect
17.1% of the population is hispanic, so "hispanic female" eliminates 91.5% of the population as a suspect
13.2% of the population is black, so "black male" eliminates 93.4% of the population as a suspect
5.3% of the population is asian, so "asian female" eliminates 97.3% of the population as a supect
All other groups are less than 5% of the population.

When you are looking for a perp, the more people you can rule out as a suspect helps to concentrate efforts on finding the suspect among the group the suspect belongs to, and eliminates a lot of wasted time.

Obviously, the more detailed the description, the better. "White male" is nowhere near as good as "white male with a scar on the right cheek, and a star tatoo on his left side of his neck just above the collar, wearing red T-shirt and jeans." However, "white male" DOES narrow down the suspect list.

So let's say the cops have a worst case "white male" as the best description of a perp in a number of convenience store robberies, and a black male is seen with large amounts of cash and lots of candy bars behind a convenience store, he's NOT a suspect in the robberies, but if a white male is seen with large amounts of cash and lots of candy bars behind a convenience store, the police would investigate to see if there is a conection between this guy and the robberies. I am not sure why this is such a difficult concept for some people.

In a couple of cities I am aware of (cop relatives) citing "black" as a race descriptor is considered discriminatory, so all suspects are describe as "...race..." "male or female" unless the perp is black, then no race description is given - so the race is still identified for the cops because the perp is not identified as "white," "hispanic," or "asian."
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Old 03-02-2015, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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Folks are taking this story into all kinds of hypothetical scenarios. It makes little sense to become outraged or befuddled by any of this until we know how the school will actually implement the policy. Locally at least, there will be a lot of people watching how they handle upcoming crime alerts.
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Old 03-02-2015, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Type 0.73 Kardashev
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Ah, yes - Minnesota... a state with one of the 10 lowest violent crime rates in the country. And of all the states among the 10 states with the lowest violent crime rates, Minnesota has by far the largest metropolitan area (the Twin Cites - significant because larger urban areas tend to have higher violent crime rates).
2013 Rate Per 100,000 and Rank by State of Crime and Imprisionment by US States

And Minnesota achieves those results with the second-lowest rate of deterrent (and expensive) incarceration of any state.
List of U.S. states by incarceration rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So bleat on and on about how Minnesota is doing it all wrong, about how Minnesota should be doing it some other (expensive) way, some way that states with higher violent crime rates (or, as I like to call them, most other states) do it.

The results say otherwise...
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Old 03-02-2015, 02:02 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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You didn't read the article or understand what it said either. If you have other identifying info such as he was young and wearing a red hoodie then you CAN say race too. You just can't say you didn't see him enough to tell height, what he was wearing or anything, but oh, pretty sure he was black.
how about 'young black male'?

does that work?

physical descriptors are better than clothing which can be changed.
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Old 03-02-2015, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Sector 001
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they do this because 80% of the suspects are black and they are feel good liberals... plain and freaking simple. Can't handle the truth? Too bad.
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