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There are NO studies that link autism and vaccines - you're either incredibly uninformed or deliberately misleading people. Please link to them. PS, if they're on a blog, more than 1-2 years old or based on someone's opinion that isn't peer reviewed then that's not a "study" that's a conspiracy theory. If in any way it's linked to Wakefield (who lost his license over his fraud for profit) then you're truly out to lunch.
The CDC is a government agency, not a for profit corporation (unlike Mercola's empire ) - of course pharmaceutical companies are paid for the vaccines they produce, nothing nefarious about that. If you think the entire medical establishment is out to "poison and damage our infants and children" I sure hope your tinfoil hat matches your outfit
Yes there are more vaccines now, science is a pretty nifty thing when it comes to saving lives.
Yes! ^^
And what next? These independent, free-thinking parents start their own medical groups because doctors can't be trusted?
Too bad there's no vaccine for LACK of common sense.
There's also the large group of adults who favor vaccination mandates for kids but who don't get vaccines for themselves. The flu vaccine is a good example of this. I doubt that the majority of adults are up to date on their pertussis vaccination either.
20% of adults have received a Pertussis with a Tetanus vaccination.
They seem to think mandating "Little Snowflakes" get their vaccinations will solve the problem. Not for something like whooping cough it won't. I have read that the symptoms for this can be far less severe in an adult than in a baby. How many coughing adults might have whooping cough and not even know it? Oh, it's just from the FLU! But if they had gotten their FLU SHOT they won't be COUGHING! It goes round and round and round.
They seem to think mandating "Little Snowflakes" get their vaccinations will solve the problem. Not for something like whooping cough it won't. I have read that the symptoms for this can be far less severe in an adult than in a baby. How many coughing adults might have whooping cough and not even know it? Oh, it's just from the FLU! But if they had gotten their FLU SHOT they won't be COUGHING! It goes round and round and round.
Yes. Whooping cough in adults and even older kids can seem just like a cold with a bad cough. I'm sure many of us have had it and not even known it. We don't even know how effective the vaccine is due to the potential mutations and we do know that it is not long lasting. Mandating kids is just a way for people to feel good while ignoring the true nature of the problem.
Lol "How is this the fault of the parent?" How about because the parent took their unvaccinated child with pertussis to the doctor's office, a pediatrician, where there are also babies there for checkups or an illness who are too young to be vaccinated against pertussis? If your kid may have whooping cough because you were too cool to not vaccinate, at least try to not infect innocent babies who could not be vaccinated yet even if their parents' tried. Call the doctor up and ask for the child to be taken to an exam room immediately, demand no waiting room time, ask for a home visit even, have the kid wear a mask, I don't know - something that doesn't put other kids directly at risk simply for sitting in a waiting room and being there at the wrong time because hippie/scientist/expert mommy who doesn't vaccinate her kids was unfortunately also there.
Any person who has whooping cough deserves to be treated. Sure the parents can take the precautions you mention but then again, they are not doctors so until diagnosed... how are they to know it is indeed pertussis? How about the vaccinated child with pertussis, would you scream so fervently about their parents lack of responsibility in going to the doctor and infecting a baby?
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Need further convincing? Google or youtube "sounds of pertussis." Search for "baby with pertussis." Listen to the cough and listen to them struggle to breathe and cry as their faces turn red. It is heartbreaking, and deadly. There are plenty of stories parents have posted, in video form, documenting their young baby's battle with whooping cough they got from an unvaccinated sick person who came into contact with the baby in some way. The videos remembering their dead child and urging parents to vaccinate so it doesn't happen to you or someone you love.
This is also the case for the child (unvaccinated or vaccinated) that has pertussis not just babies. Also, in the above article, you can see that 1/3 of the cases were unvaccinated, 2/3 were vaccinated. Most were older children who suffered the same as the baby.
This presumption that an unvaccinated child harbors diseases (when they haven't been exposed) is preposterous. That is why schools send home the unvaccinated if someone comes down with these diseases they weren't vaccinated for.
Yep! And it wouldn't matter if she's had no antibiotics in her life or a zillion doses. It's the strain, not the kid.
Actually, if my kid fights off strep without antibiotics then she is also going to be able to fight antibiotic resistant strains (because she doesn't need antibiotics).
Actually, if my kid fights off strep without antibiotics then she is also going to be able to fight antibiotic resistant strains (because she doesn't need antibiotics).
That's not how human immune systems work. Antibodies are very specific to a specific bacterium or other antigen.
Really? What a cop-out. There's nothing you can do? How about covering your baby when out and about where snotty little children are prevalent (like at say, a doctor's office)?
That's not going to be very practical when the child goes off to school. (Which was the point of this thread before it got retitled).
Actually, if my kid fights off strep without antibiotics then she is also going to be able to fight antibiotic resistant strains (because she doesn't need antibiotics).
Or, if you believe the actual real doctors, your kid could:
spread infection to others (we know you don't care about this but others reading might)
it's possible for strep throat bacteria to spread to other tissues, causing an abscess or more-serious infection
although rare, untreated strep throat can lead to heart damage from rheumatic fever
untreated, strep throat can quickly lead to a more severe illness such as rheumatic fever (a serious heart condition) or acute nephritis (which can damage your kidneys) -- and both of these can be fatal.
You're betting your kid's health on this. I for one will put my chips behind the medical evidence that proves the benefits of antibiotics. There is NO evidence that beating one illness makes you any more likely to defeat the next.
Parents having children at older ages than ever before on average...........
Actually if you look at the statistics, eastern countries like Germany, China, and South Korea have much later pregnancies than the US yet Germany has one of the lowest ASD rates.
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) - of course pharmaceutical companies are paid for the vaccines they produce, nothing nefarious about that. If you think the entire medical establishment is out to "poison and damage our infants and children" I sure hope your tinfoil hat matches your outfit 
Oh, it's just from the FLU! But if they had gotten their FLU SHOT they won't be COUGHING! 
It goes round and round and round.
