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Sometimes, people give police a description of a suspect, and the police know it's the same suspect when the clothing/descriptors match and the person is in the same general area. If police had to witness everything that happens, no one would ever be arrested for domestic violence or several other crimes that happen away from the police.
Yes, police have to "execute" people sometimes when they pose a danger to someone else's life, and it isn't the police officer's fault. There are consequences that go along with violent actions. Next time someone is running around, high on PCP and armed with a knife, maybe you can sweet talk them or hug them to get them under control.
If indeed the guy slashed an police car's tires, unless he did that with his fingernails he had a weapon.
No the article didn't and I don't have time to go dig for the one that did. I know it wasn't incidental. I also know that he's a firearms instructor. Now, back to the original subject. The officer in question is a bad apple, he makes good officers look bad. end of story.....
I've seen this video so many times I now turn away. News stations, heads up.
Van Dyke will be thrown into a black hole, were he belongs...if the jury gets it right.
The kid was murdered.
You can all argue this out until He** freezes over, but if you look at the video, the kid was turning away, and at quite a distance.
Any cop worth his salt would have evaluated this situation as such. Was Van Dyke a rookie? No, he was a bad hire, with several (16, 17?) bad judgments in his past.
Police depts need to get their crap together and stop hiring these bone heads who just want the glory of 'more power to m'wa.'
I love that technology is going to calm them down, and make them accountable.
At the same time, don't get me wrong. Most likely 95 % of the police who join are doing it for the right reasons. But just like us, they are human; and the 5% that are nutjobs need to be held accountable.
About 5% of us 'think' it's OK to attack other living things...somethings wrong there. Best make the test taking to become a man with a badge and a gun a harder thing to do. Make sure they all have to take physc-evaluations, on a 6 month basis, if not already in place. I'm almost sure LA trains their cops for 2 yrs. on criminal background before they are let on the streets.
Weed them out, get rid of the bad seeds.
And the people of any community who may deal with a kid on PCP need to better police themselves, lest the cops get called and bad things can happen. It's a two-way street.
Last edited by TerraDown; 11-28-2015 at 03:44 PM..
I'm calling bullcrap on this one. I work in LE and if someone has a gun, you're not aiming for their leg. Someone shot in the leg can still kill many, many people. If a perpetrator is using lethal force with intent, you take them down, center mass.
yep, this makes so much sense especially when YOUR definition of lethal force is all that counts. He could pass gas and you'd "take him down" because that's what domestic terrorists do. They love to kill so they've become legal licensed killers and "take people down" whenever they "feel threatened"
Sometimes, people give police a description of a suspect, and the police know it's the same suspect when the clothing/descriptors match and the person is in the same general area. If police had to witness everything that happens, no one would ever be arrested for domestic violence or several other crimes that happen away from the police.
Yes, police have to "execute" people sometimes when they pose a danger to someone else's life, and it isn't the police officer's fault. There are consequences that go along with violent actions. Next time someone is running around, high on PCP and armed with a knife, maybe you can sweet talk them or hug them to get them under control.
precisely, let's shoot the "perp" that's high on Pcp as long as he's a "thug" but we should calmly coax a "domestic terrorist" into surrendering because that's just the way we operate. Lol.
precisely, let's shoot the "perp" that's high on Pcp as long as he's a "thug" but we should calmly coax a "domestic terrorist" into surrendering because that's just the way we operate. Lol.
Justice for all. Lol
If you are talking about the guy who had hostages in Colorado, he was only talked down because he had hostages. Just FYI in case you plan on using this again. I'm sure he'll get a death sentence. No worries.
It was an obvious attempted cover up. Thankfully there were groups pushing to release the video and the judge agreed with them. Part of the $5 million dollar agreement with his family was to basically not bring it up and vanish. I am not sure how much of this thread you have read, but I posted an article and then a video on 86 minutes of missing footage from Burger King security cameras. I will post it again here for those that aren't starting from page 1 of the thread. It is from May 2015.
I would have asked them for a court order for copies of the video. To just let anyone have access to this security footage with no paper trail is stupid. People are still way to trusting of authority. Just because the police asks you for something like video footage doesn't mean you are required to give it to them without a court order.
No the article didn't and I don't have time to go dig for the one that did. I know it wasn't incidental. I also know that he's a firearms instructor. Now, back to the original subject. The officer in question is a bad apple, he makes good officers look bad. end of story.....
There are always going to be some of those bad apples. Or just some cops that group together and get out of control. We have a large amount of law enforcement, and they battle a large amount of crime. There will always be casualties.
I remember in Fullerton this homeless guy being beat to death by cops. It's all sad, but there will always be casualties. Protest won't solve this. They might make it worse.
I could post all day, the point is this happens all the time, and it's gender, color and disability blind. But, I believe the only way to lower it is to reduce crime. Stay away from crime, don't do illegal drugs, do not steal, do not put yourself in the middle of the war.
yep, this makes so much sense especially when YOUR definition of lethal force is all that counts. He could pass gas and you'd "take him down" because that's what domestic terrorists do. They love to kill so they've become legal licensed killers and "take people down" whenever they "feel threatened"
A lethal weapon means a deadly weapon. Any firearm, device, instrument, material, or any other substance that is capable of producing great bodily harm or death from the manner it is used or intended to be used, may be referred to as a lethal weapon. A gun, sword, knife, pistol, or the like, is a lethal weapon, as a matter of law, when used within striking distance from the person assaulted.
This individual had a knife and had already acted in a threatening manner prior to the shooting. Should he have been shot sixteen times? Of course not and the officer should face the consequences. Should he have been shot once? or twice? That would be up to the individual officer to decide. This individual was running down the street brandishing a deadly weapon. Who knows where he would have gone had he not been stopped? I assume your house isn't near the area? Didn't think so.
As I said before, stupid is as stupid does. One deserved to get shot and one deserves to go to jail.
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