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Will terrorist types and other criminals begin using/using more iPhones because the encrypting can be trusted?
they have been-- as I said every body is all about privacy and go away BIG brother until something happens to their family -that maybe could be prevented. I rather use preventive medicine than wait to be on my death bed.
I encourage some of you to read up on this topic a bit more. People in the tech industry are weighing in and explaining why Apple has to take the position they've taken, so you'll find articles on the subject.
Once Apple does this for one government agency, they will be forced to do it for all government agencies. You set a precedent when you do something one time. And the more software is used, the greater the risk that it will be hacked by another country. Cyber crime costs us about $450 billion dollars a year and that leads to a reduction in jobs, as companies look for ways to pay for this loss. The Chinese are constantly stealing software from us, and would love to get their hands on something that would unlock all iPhones.
The government has tried to get Apple to do this before. This is just one attempt in a credit card fraud case:
When these failed, it seems they waited for a high profile, emotionally charged case, to try it again.
There is no evidence that anything of importance exists on the phone. All we know is that the terrorists destroyed two phones, but not this specific phone, leading many to think there is nothing to find there.
Doing something that will ultimately put all IOS phones around the world at risk for hacking, identity theft, etc., not to mention putting most companies at risk, is not only irresponsible, but is asking a major corporation to commit suicide.
I won't even address the point of government intrusion on citizens, since some of you seem to be either ignorant of how much that goes on, or simply don't care, in which case, you should also do a search for Julia Angwin who has written articles on this for the WSJ or look up William Binney Frontline Interview.
Will someone with some actual knowledge come on here and chime in?
It is not about Apple breaking into the phone, it is that if one phone is broken to, all of them are capable of being broken into. This is essentially demanding a master key be made that will actually unlock every house and building in the city. The resources dumped into making a hack proof system would be destroyed, opening the door for hackers. So the government essentially wants to expose millions of people and businesses to hackers after businesses like Apple have spent a considerable amount of resources to make their systems as hack proof as possible.
There is no "just unlock this phone and be done with it"; you think Apple would put up such a fight if it was over something that trivial?
FBI isnt busting down a door and forcing anything. Now, are they.
Obviously you are very left leaning. So, let the emotions rest before responding.
The FBI can ask Apple to unlock phone, and give them the data on the phone. Simple. Nobody needs to see the code, just unlock it, get the data, and give it to them. Simple
Your not understanding
Aplle business can tank if they do this
They already said they CANNOT do this as they dont have the software
And last, doing this will change the whole world. Encryption would no longer be secure. Hackers would be hacking your phone like crazy, getting all your bank and private details
Its not as simple as everyone think. Only people agree with gov is non tech people because they dont understand
Apple already told the gov to give them the phone, GOV said NO we are protecting the phone. Apple then said EXACTLY!!!! We are protecting our product. What such hypocrites....
I encourage some of you to read up on this topic a bit more. People in the tech industry are weighing in and explaining why Apple has to take the position they've taken, so you'll find articles on the subject.
Once Apple does this for one government agency, they will be forced to do it for all government agencies. You set a precedent when you do something one time. And the more software is used, the greater the risk that it will be hacked by another country. Cyber crime costs us about $450 billion dollars a year and that leads to a reduction in jobs, as companies look for ways to pay for this loss. The Chinese are constantly stealing software from us, and would love to get their hands on something that would unlock all iPhones.
The government has tried to get Apple to do this before. This is just one attempt in a credit card fraud case:
When these failed, it seems they waited for a high profile, emotionally charged case, to try it again.
There is no evidence that anything of importance exists on the phone. All we know is that the terrorists destroyed two phones, but not this specific phone, leading many to think there is nothing to find there.
Doing something that will ultimately put all IOS phones around the world at risk for hacking, identity theft, etc., not to mention putting most companies at risk, is not only irresponsible, but is asking a major corporation to commit suicide.
I won't even address the point of government intrusion on citizens, since some of you seem to be either ignorant of how much that goes on, or simply don't care, in which case, you should also do a search for Julia Angwin who has written articles on this for the WSJ or look up William Binney Frontline Interview.
Sums it up nice.. Apple business would tank! Unlocking the phone would be a game changer for the whole world. hackers would run wild and then all your information will be hacked and stolen
A lot of your are not understanding the magnitude of what the GOV is asking
Also the phone was a work phone that the employer could take a any time, I doubt its anything on it which is why they smashed the other 2 phones
Will someone with some actual knowledge come on here and chime in?
It is not about Apple breaking into the phone, it is that if one phone is broken to, all of them are capable of being broken into. This is essentially demanding a master key be made that will actually unlock every house and building in the city. The resources dumped into making a hack proof system would be destroyed, opening the door for hackers. So the government essentially wants to expose millions of people and businesses to hackers after businesses like Apple have spent a considerable amount of resources to make their systems as hack proof as possible.
There is no "just unlock this phone and be done with it"; you think Apple would put up such a fight if it was over something that trivial?
This is correct.
Also we all know if Apple do this, all the police and federal agencies would flood Apple with request
Apple business would go downhill and tank!
Every computer system would now be hackable and it will be like the wild west as hackers run crazy stealing our info and bank accounts and private data
Our enemies could now hack us
Even GOV phones wouldnt be secure
This would be a big game changer and not for the good
Even if Apple could do 1 phone they shouldnt. Their business would tank big time. Nobody would trust them. Stock would fall.
I think Apple should unlock the phone FOR the FBI at an Apple facility. The phones owner is dead. The phones owner committed a terrorist act. The Phone may have clues to others involved.
Notice how I did NOT say Apple should give the FBI the code to crack the phone. Giving the code would have serious privacy issues. Taking the phone and giving the FBI access to that particular phone needs to be done.
I think this may be a reasonable compromise.
If the FBI says no, then Apple should tell them to go pound sand.
Yeah the government has never forced a company to make a product it doesn't want to (air bags, back up cameras starting next year, cars with catalytic converters, wood stoves with same).
Bad analogy.
First, all of those examples are regulations passed through the legislative process, not a court order on the whim of one judge.
Second, they all apply to future products. They are not required to retrofit existing cars with new features.
I encourage some of you to read up on this topic a bit more. People in the tech industry are weighing in and explaining why Apple has to take the position they've taken, so you'll find articles on the subject.
Once Apple does this for one government agency, they will be forced to do it for all government agencies. You set a precedent when you do something one time. And the more software is used, the greater the risk that it will be hacked by another country. Cyber crime costs us about $450 billion dollars a year and that leads to a reduction in jobs, as companies look for ways to pay for this loss. The Chinese are constantly stealing software from us, and would love to get their hands on something that would unlock all iPhones.
The government has tried to get Apple to do this before. This is just one attempt in a credit card fraud case:
When these failed, it seems they waited for a high profile, emotionally charged case, to try it again.
There is no evidence that anything of importance exists on the phone. All we know is that the terrorists destroyed two phones, but not this specific phone, leading many to think there is nothing to find there.
Doing something that will ultimately put all IOS phones around the world at risk for hacking, identity theft, etc., not to mention putting most companies at risk, is not only irresponsible, but is asking a major corporation to commit suicide.
I won't even address the point of government intrusion on citizens, since some of you seem to be either ignorant of how much that goes on, or simply don't care, in which case, you should also do a search for Julia Angwin who has written articles on this for the WSJ or look up William Binney Frontline Interview.
Apple has opened up devices before. This is not a first time they were asked.
Will someone with some actual knowledge come on here and chime in?
It is not about Apple breaking into the phone, it is that if one phone is broken to, all of them are capable of being broken into. This is essentially demanding a master key be made that will actually unlock every house and building in the city. The resources dumped into making a hack proof system would be destroyed, opening the door for hackers. So the government essentially wants to expose millions of people and businesses to hackers after businesses like Apple have spent a considerable amount of resources to make their systems as hack proof as possible.
There is no "just unlock this phone and be done with it"; you think Apple would put up such a fight if it was over something that trivial?
Exactly. Reading the comments in this thread, people seem to think that it's as simple as apple unlocking that specific phone. This is not the case! Read the articles, people. Some of you seem to have a gross misunderstanding of what this involves.
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