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Old 07-24-2016, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Southern Quebec
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What a horrible thing for this POS to have done. I was furious when I read about this incident, I really was.
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Old 07-24-2016, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Ummm, a little too preoccupied with the whole 'sex with 5 yr olds' scenario, aren't you?
This whole discussion is a debate on child abuse as I see it, not free speech.

An adult making fun over the appearance of child is no different to that same adult stopping the child in the street and taunting them. It's bullying and child abuse. Adults should be looking out for kids, not make money from taunting them.

Somehow a lot of people have gotten all airy fairy over free speech and have been fooled into thinking that taunting kids about their appearance is a necessary evil to protect a free society.

People didn't fight in the revolution over the right to abuse kids, yet people have been brainwashed into thinking they did.

There is no free speech, but only what the law of your land allows. America is no different, you can't just say whatever you want without consequence and there is always a bar for what is allowed. Difference in this case is that Canada feels that children are worth protecting from the unwanted attention of adults, while the US doesn't.
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Old 07-24-2016, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Absolutely false. Example: I abhor fundamentalist Christian ideology. But I 100% support their right to believe and practice their faith. It is not up to me or anyone else to tell others what to believe or how to speak or worship.
No argument from me.

How about the right for adults to abuse/bully/taunt kids in the street, are you cool with that?
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Old 07-24-2016, 11:17 AM
 
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No argument from me.

How about the right for adults to abuse/bully/taunt kids in the street, are you cool with that?
I think I see the problem. When I was younger were taught the old sticks and stones adage.
Are you one of the new era sensitive types that needs the government to defend your right to not be hurt by words?

And yeah, you won't be killing anyone for insulting your child. Nice edit, though.

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There isn't a concept of free speech, only an interpretation as allowed by the law.... including the US.

F*** Voltaire, someone makes fun of my kids for a few dollars and free drinks, I'd kill them myself if I knew I could get away with it.

Maybe you should ask a few survivors of the Nazi era, if they would defend with their lives, the rights of the brownshirts to express their views -Voltaire's is an airy fairy view really, entirely dependent on the situation. Great for people who feel safe behind the veneer of a civil society, but worthless dribble when the goo hits the fan.
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Old 07-24-2016, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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I think I see the problem. When I was younger were taught the old sticks and stones adage.
Are you one of the new era sensitive types that needs the government to defend your right to not be hurt by words?

And yeah, you won't be killing anyone for insulting your child. Nice edit, though.
It's not me I'm thinking of, but children ...you know? .... minors - the ones who aren't yet considered capable of speaking of looking after themselves in the way an adult can.

If an adult has a child that is being used repeatedly in a comic routine in a very negative manner, and if the law of that land doesn't want to involve itself in that, then yes, I do support that parent harming that abuser.
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Old 07-24-2016, 11:39 AM
 
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It's not me I'm thinking of, but children ...you know? .... minors - the ones who aren't yet considered capable of speaking of looking after themselves in the way an adult can.
"The children" were at that comedy act? Their parents should probably be beaten, since Nazis.
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Old 07-24-2016, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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"The children" were at that comedy act? Their parents should probably be beaten, since Nazis.
The irony of course, is that in the US, the child would likely not be able to gain entry into the club where an adult was making money by denigrating then .... because of a law designed to protect children.

Of course, it doesn't just have to be in a club. If kids are fair game for "free speechers", then any where is acceptable.
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Old 07-24-2016, 11:52 AM
 
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The irony of course, is that in the US, the child would likely not be able to gain entry into the club where an adult was making money by denigrating then .... because of a law designed to protect children.
There was a law and before it was passed people were taking their kids to watch comedy acts that made fun of them? Thank God for the government!! They're not Nazis, I tell you!
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Old 07-24-2016, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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There was a law and before it was passed people were taking their kids to watch comedy acts that made fun of them? Thank God for the government!! They're not Nazis, I tell you!
There were lots of things that could happen to kids and with little comeback to the abusers involved, before laws were enacted.

It's just depends what you think is acceptable abuse -you think society is better served by an adult having the right to walk up to a nine year old on the street and saying just about anything they want, while I don't.
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Old 07-24-2016, 12:00 PM
 
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There were lots of things that could happen to kids and with little comeback to the abusers involved, before laws were enacted.
The government should make a law mandating comebacks. I agree.
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