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Also the little of the article I read didn't say he wasn't reprimanded. Not firing him or just saying his 'status hasn't changed' doesn't mean NO action was taken.And the could have made a confidential agreement with him not allowing him to say anything about it.
He committed an act of violence on a person. So he did break the law. The flag burning did not break the law. he interrupted a legal action with a non legal action. He should be punished by someone pressing charges.
He was putting the fire out, and them running forward him in a threatening matter, he use the fire retardant to defend himself. If there was any issues, than the cop would have ticket him, but instead ticket the morons for burning the flag with out permission and permit in city limits. Those need to go back and study up on history and get educated. Burning a flag will not solve any problems, it only creates them.. And yes retiring a flag is always done by burning it in a civil and respectful matter. Unlike just burning it and stomping on it for what reason? is beyond anybody with the right mind comprehension. Draft them and see how far they get. They will learn to respect it and do something to change their disagreement on what we are facing. Start by VOTING, Voting with your money.. simple solution.
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He was putting the fire out, and them running forward him in a threatening matter, he use the fire retardant to defend himself. If there was any issues, than the cop would have ticket him, but instead ticket the morons for burning the flag with out permission and permit in city limits. Those need to go back and study up on history and get educated. Burning a flag will not solve any problems, it only creates them.. And yes retiring a flag is always done by burning it in a civil and respectful matter. Unlike just burning it and stomping on it for what reason? is beyond anybody with the right mind comprehension. Draft them and see how far they get. They will learn to respect it and do something to change their disagreement on what we are facing. Start by VOTING, Voting with your money.. simple solution.
I saw the video and that's not what happened. He went charging up to them and grabbed the flag out of someones hands and then he behaved in a violent manner and sprayed them when they tried to grab the flag back. It was not his flag, he had no right to grab at someone and steal their property. He had every right to vocally criticize them but he crossed the line when he took physical action against them.
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Back in 1988 when the Supreme Court issued its (in my opinion idiotic) ruling holding that flag burning was protected First Amendment speech, a joke went around "my baby just said his (or her) first words; he (or she) burned a flag. In my view burning a flag is a non-protected action, not protected speech.
Just another Jay-Bob, not thinking while acting out his frustrations, unfortunately, he is the reincarnation of Archie Bunker--on steroids. Trump has definitely encouraged these types, but they were always here, just waiting in the wings for their stage cue. They've always walked among us, and they've always acted as the defenders of the faith, the world over..
burning is a perfectly acceptable way to respectfully retire a flag.
Several years ago a Pastor in the US south threatened to burn a Koran in protest of the actions of Muslims in countries in the middle east. I made the suggestion that in protest of his action, we should gather several Bibles and burn them, I wasn't going to tell many people that we were burning old Bibles to dispose of them, and especially not the media. Other people thought that was a bad idea, so we didn't do it, the pastor was eventually talked out of burning a Koran.
Back in 1988 when the Supreme Court issued its (in my opinion idiotic) ruling holding that flag burning was protected First Amendment speech, a joke went around "my baby just said his (or her) first words; he (or she) burned a flag. In my view burning a flag is a non-protected action, not protected speech.
I respect your right to an opinion, and even sympathize with your belief.
But, I am curious as to why you believe that the 1st Amendment should not protect flag-burning? Is burning the flag not political expression? Is political expression not the most protected of all expressions?
Just another Jay-Bob, not thinking while acting out his frustrations, unfortunately, he is the reincarnation of Archie Bunker--on steroids. Trump has definitely encouraged these types, but they were always here, just waiting in the wings for their stage cue. They've always walked among us, and they've always acted as the defenders of the faith, the world over..
I'm not getting this line of thought.
I see so many criticizing violence on the right, when actually, by far, most political violence today is committed by those on the left.
I respect your right to an opinion, and even sympathize with your belief.
But, I am curious as to why you believe that the 1st Amendment should not protect flag-burning? Is burning the flag not political expression? Is political expression not the most protected of all expressions?
The First Amendment protects speech, not actions. Now there are some hybrids, such as "expressive actions." However spitting on the sidewalk is not protected. Also, I personally take the view that the flag, or the intellectual property behind the flag, is Federal property. There are very specific laws on the proper display and destruction of flags and I don't see why disrespecting the flag should be an exception.
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