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Old 06-20-2023, 07:34 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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This person who is supposed to be a submarine expert gives quite an in depth analysis.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dka29FSZac&t=1009s
Good information. He seems very knowledgeable.
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Old 06-20-2023, 07:39 PM
 
Location: in my mind
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Why don't they paint the submersible in bright, easy-to-identify color, say orange? Even if it's broken into pieces that would help finding them.

Also, could it implode and instead of breaking into pieces, it maitained the whole piece like a crushed can in irregular shape, so even if you see it you can't tell what it is?
This is what I said upthread- if nothing else, it would have been one easy thing to make it in a bright color, in the off chance that they MIGHT need to see it floating on the surface.

But in the article from the Smithsonian I linked above, the first sub this guy built was bright yellow and he is quoted as saying he hated it because he hated the song "Yellow Submarine".
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Old 06-20-2023, 07:47 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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The NY Times has several articles on the submersible itself, and the search for it.

Here's one that discusses how it's an experimental craft unlike other submersibles, which means it couldn't get certified for safety. There had been warnings that it may not be safe.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/06...utting-corners
Not an NYT fan. The thing was definitely not industry standard but I don’t think the CEO would go down himself so often if he knew he was cutting corners with safety.
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Old 06-20-2023, 07:47 PM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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The idea that people would pay a quarter of a million dollars and ride two miles down to the bottom of the ocean in a submersible about the size of a camping van is risk taking at the extreme.
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Old 06-20-2023, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I guess the founder was also on the sub Stockon Rush.
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Old 06-20-2023, 07:49 PM
 
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From another Times article at the same link given in my previous post (#150):

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Leaders in the submersible craft industry had warned for years of possible “catastrophic” problems with the craft’s design, and worried that the Titan had not followed standard certification procedures.
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Search aircraft from the United States and Canada have been scanning the surface, while sonar buoys have been pinging the depths in hopes of locating the lost submersible, Captain Frederick said.

In 2018, more than three dozen people, including oceanographers, submersible company executives and deep-sea explorers, warned that they had “unanimous concern” about the craft’s design, and worried that the Titan had not followed standard certification procedures. In a 2019 blog post, the company said that “bringing an outside entity up to speed on every innovation before it is put into real-world testing is anathema to rapid innovation.”

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Old 06-20-2023, 07:55 PM
 
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The idea that people would pay a quarter of a million dollars and ride two miles down to the bottom of the ocean in a submersible about the size of a camping van is risk taking at the extreme.
Well, according to reports, not all submersibles were created equal. Some of the marine specialists quoted in various articles have been down to view the Titanic or other deep-sea phenomena many times, and lived to tell all the tales. They say, Titan was designed differently, using an innovative combination of materials to create the hull.

A retired Navy submariner said, he never would have gone down in it, and when asked by others considering signing up for it, whether he recommended it, he told them all "no".
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Old 06-20-2023, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Early in the thread, I posted a quote from an article that said apprx. 60 paying customers have been taken down to the Titanic in the past couple of years by this company. I hope some of these folks start speaking out about their experience. Its got to be the creepiest feeling ever for them to know what it actually feels like to be down so deep in that little tube.
The thing apparently got stuck in one of the Titanic's parts in the past and the crew then thought they were done for.
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Old 06-20-2023, 08:05 PM
 
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The thing apparently got stuck in one of the Titanic's parts in the past and the crew then thought they were done for.
That was a completely different sub and company. I posted an interview upthread with a reporter who went down in a sub to the Titanic with Russians in the year 2000. The sub that he was in got stuck at the propeller of the Titanic, and it took careful maneuvering and communication with the ship to get it out. He was in tears talking about this as over 20 years later, he could recall the terror that he felt as the thoughts "this is how it ends for you" went through his mind down there.
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Old 06-20-2023, 08:15 PM
 
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There's still hope as banging noises heard

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ms-Reveal.html
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