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Old 11-22-2019, 01:37 AM
 
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The new owner will tear down the mall and turn it into 4,000 high-density apartment units.
It's certainly lucrative for developers, but may not be a good news for existing residents. House sale is already down 10-20% YoY in this area.
There is literally no data, and no logic, to this post.
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Old 11-22-2019, 06:48 AM
 
Location: Frisco, TX
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There are, on average, about five murders in Plano per year. There have been fourteen so far.
This is about a 300% increase.

One could say that crime is out of control, but you’re starting off at a very low number. If there was a 300% increase in Dallas, then that would be a different story.
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Old 11-22-2019, 07:05 AM
 
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East Plano isn’t expensive, and still wildly safer than the average.
It is a great buy for people on a budget. A drive around Plano East Senior High can pleasantly surprise people. To be fair parts of East Plano have gone down and attracted low rent issues but hopefully this will change as commute dilemmas are attracting investors there for redevelopment projects. It’s a good location, safe area which feeds to good schools so can’t stay down for long.

East Plano gets the short end of stick when people compare it to much wealthier west end of Plano, which had a better start with custom homes and with time benefitted greatly due to downpour of corporate money around DNT and 121.
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Old 11-22-2019, 07:18 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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West side was always higher end but due to influx of corporate money on this side, it has boomed even more. I always preferred west side, best location in whole North Texas.
It's definitely the newer & fancier part of Plano. That doesn't mean that east Plano is a dump, but it's gaining a reputation for being a little seedy. Some areas over there definitely deserve that reputation, but there are a lot of nice neighborhoods there too.


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Part of the reason why Collin Creek Mall shut down. No one wants to touch there with 1-mile pole.
That's a load of crap. I noticed traffic really dropped off at Collin Creek during the Great Recession, which also slightly pre-dated the boom in retail building in Allen & Fairview. Through 2007-2010, a lot of shops in the Collin Creek area (and really all the way up to Parker) pulled up stakes and moved north to the 75/Stacy Road area.


The recession certainly didn't help the Collin Creek area recover from that mass migration of retail.


Add online shopping as a factor (as it has been in the deaths of malls across the country), then consider all the construction that has been occurring on the 75/PGBT area over the last couple of years.


It's really no wonder.


For all we know, the construction on 75/PGBT was designed to support the proposed redevelopment rather than the existing one.


I don't feel unsafe on the 75 corridor anywhere in Collin County.
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Old 11-22-2019, 07:50 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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It's been interesting to learn what people perceive as "run down" since I've started following these forums. I have definitely been surprised by some of the comments made (not necessarily in this forum, but in general) on middle-class neighborhoods. This has been an eye-opener on how some people in the upper-middle class and the wealthy view the rest of the population.
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Old 11-22-2019, 08:05 AM
 
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There are, on average, about five murders in Plano per year. There have been fourteen so far.
Wrong. These were the first murders of the year in Plano. They are now at 3 or 4.




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I noticed traffic really dropped off at Collin Creek during the Great Recession, which also slightly pre-dated the boom in retail building in Allen & Fairview.
I don't think that is quite true. The falloff in Collin Creek predated the recession, as Stonebriar in Frisco was a much nicer architecturally and much better built, and a lot of the pad sites around it remained vacant or severely underutilized as the design was so bad it created little additional traffic. It was just a poorly designed and frankly ugly mall and as soon as their was some decent alternatives, it was going down.
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Old 11-22-2019, 08:09 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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It's been interesting to learn what people perceive as "run down" since I've started following these forums. I have definitely been surprised by some of the comments made (not necessarily in this forum, but in general) on middle-class neighborhoods. This has been an eye-opener on how some people in the upper-middle class and the wealthy view the rest of the population.
Go over by the Bullet Trap sometime and tell me that's not a bit seedy.
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Old 11-22-2019, 10:06 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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Go over by the Bullet Trap sometime and tell me that's not a bit seedy.
I have and I still stand by my statement.
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Old 11-22-2019, 10:47 AM
 
Location: New Orleans
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Go over by the Bullet Trap sometime and tell me that's not a bit seedy.
I stayed at the Red Roof Inn between there and 75. Let me tell you, it was bad. Plano PD was there almost every night. The outdoor passageway was an open-air drug market, my last night a girl was getting beat down by two guys and they almost threw her off the balcony. When the police showed up that time one of the officers asked me if I smelled anything, apparently it was crack smoke.

When I checked out early the officers informed me that several other hotels in that same cluster were also "hot". I know trashy motels can pop up anywhere, but geez.

It certainly challenged my view of Plano. I visited my friends who live in apartments off Coit (more on the west side) and the atmosphere couldn´t have been more different.
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Old 11-22-2019, 01:04 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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I stayed at the Red Roof Inn between there and 75. Let me tell you, it was bad. Plano PD was there almost every night. The outdoor passageway was an open-air drug market, my last night a girl was getting beat down by two guys and they almost threw her off the balcony. When the police showed up that time one of the officers asked me if I smelled anything, apparently it was crack smoke.

When I checked out early the officers informed me that several other hotels in that same cluster were also "hot". I know trashy motels can pop up anywhere, but geez.

It certainly challenged my view of Plano. I visited my friends who live in apartments off Coit (more on the west side) and the atmosphere couldn´t have been more different.
I guess this guy doesn't consider that to be "seedy."


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I have and I still stand by my statement.

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