Inflated home prices (Dallas, Garland, Highlands: apartment complex, crime, Home Depot)

[TheOverdog]

Kardashians, for example, are clearly high prole despite their enormous amounts of money, whereas the retired professor of Renaissance literature who lives on a small pension from an obscure liberal arts college in a condo, is most likely upper middle.

So their father Robert Kardashian a famous lawyer, Olympic champion stepfather/California governor hopeful, supermodel status, prep-school attendees are high prole vs a retired professor being upper middle class? LOL. Maybe except for the famous lineage. This is why class distinctions are so silly. Kardashian exhusband meets with the president. How much higher class can you get, and if that doesn't count, then what does social class really mean?

[DFWGuy422]

Originally Posted by TheOverdog

So their father Robert Kardashian a famous lawyer, Olympic champion stepfather/California governor hopeful, supermodel status, prep-school attendees are high prole vs a retired professor being upper middle class? LOL. Maybe except for the famous lineage. This is why class distinctions are so silly. Kardashian exhusband meets with the president. How much higher class can you get, and if that doesn't count, then what does social class really mean?

They’re famous for reasons that… aren’t the best. And being in the news constantly for stuff like the Trump/Kanye West circus doesn’t make somebody upper class.

[DallasComet]

Originally Posted by Sunbather

Understood. I'm aware that the Eastwood area started being built out in the 40s with a lot of growth in the 50s and 60s. I did speak with our neighbor, she has lived in the area 40 years and to the best of her knowledge she said it's been Eastwood as long as she can remember. Beyond that, I have no real information on whether the name existed around inception or popped up sometime between the 40s and the 80s.

However, I don't think anyone mistakes any connection between Eastwood and Lakewood.

That being said, I'm not sure where your 'urban pioneer' comment comes from. But maybe I'm just misunderstanding. I usually see that term used for run down areas or gentrifying areas and I definitely don't consider this area rundown. I live in this area and find it an aesthetically nice, semi-walkable area with established mid century homes. Nice mature tree cover, homes that are kept in nice condition or updated tastefully. My neighbors are a nice mixture of professionals, young families, or retirees. I think it's a gem of an area.

I will say that if you cross Peavy to the East an keep going toward Ferguson, the quality of home upkeep tends to decline in that direction.

Ferguson has been the dividing line for quite a while until you get down to the Hillridge area.

[aggie972]

The Eastwood area could be a nice investment. The shopping center with Goodfriend, Goodfriend Package, Cultivar, and GAPCO has become a destination for Far East Dallas. There's a small apartment complex going in at the Garland Road Thrift Store site that's going to rent for between $2,000-$3,000 a month. Smells like gentrification to me.

[Sunbather]

I definitely think it's a nice investment area and I totally agree that that shopping corner is great to have within walking distance. Don't forget hello dumpling there too.

I don't think the Eastwood area itself is really a candidate for what I would traditionally consider gentrification as it is already nice mid century homes that are well kept and/or updated tastefully. You'll find very few project homes there that need a lot of work and even then it's mostly just updated cosmetic interior finishes. The median home price is already in the $500s. With the price and state of homes, most people aren't buying these to flip nor raze and build in this area. However, I think you will see some additional improvement in areas across Garland and down toward Ferguson in coming years.

[mschrief]

Originally Posted by TX Rover

She didn’t Trump up enough for the uneducated.

IDK my son is an owner/operator trucker, has multiple college degrees, runs his business.

And dislikes Trump.

[75214Dad]

Originally Posted by rabbit33

The Hexter/Reilly area is fine in and of itself, but to the south and east it gets dicey.

Well, Reilly extends to LBJ to the east and beyond that is Garland so I’m not sure that would be “urban pioneer” either. Inner ring suburban is more likely.

To the south is Casa Linda which is even more expensive. So you pretty much have no clue what you’re talking about.

I mean, sure the “2 points” area of Peavy isn’t my favorite, but it’s not walkable to Eastwood- they are in no way connected (different schools K-12, no bus routes between the two, different zip codes, they are different areas!)

[Sunbather]

^I agree that I'm a bit confused about what area Rabbit33 would be referring to. Eastwood is assigned to Hexter and essentially walkable to the school. I bet from our front door to Hexter is a mile at most. The neighborhood is just across Lake Highlands. And definitely not anything I would consider dicey.

[jgn2013]

Originally Posted by DFWGuy422

They’re famous for reasons that… aren’t the best. And being in the news constantly for stuff like the Trump/Kanye West circus doesn’t make somebody upper class.

Agreed about the news........but the reasons for being upper class (or not) are tricky.

If a family made their fortune through bootlegging or slavery, would we consider them upper class? Probably 'new money' for the first generation but at some point they become old money. Feel like "old money" is the point where your family has been wealthy long enough that folks don't quite remember how you became wealthy in the first place. You name is familiar but no single individual in your family is particularly famous unless they're a diplomat, CEO/Chairman, President etc.

Kardashians aren't quite in that club but their family line almost certainly will be considering all of the sisters appear to be quite well off in their own right.

[DFWGuy422]

Originally Posted by jgn2013

Agreed about the news........but the reasons for being upper class (or not) are tricky.

If a family made their fortune through bootlegging or slavery, would we consider them upper class? Probably 'new money' for the first generation but at some point they become old money. Feel like "old money" is the point where your family has been wealthy long enough that folks don't quite remember how you became wealthy in the first place. You name is familiar but no single individual in your family is particularly famous unless they're a diplomat, CEO/Chairman, President etc.

Kardashians aren't quite in that club but their family line almost certainly will be considering all of the sisters appear to be quite well off in their own right.

Agreed. It’s a complicated, not “one size fits all” definition. Kind of a “you can’t explain it, but you know it when you see it” situation. That being said, I think many (most?) would not take the Kardashians seriously nor think they’re upper class.