Dayton MSA grew.

[TomJones123]

First off, we aren't talking about merging cities (more specifically all the cities and townships between Dayton and Cincy) to come up with a large city of 3 million. That ain't ever gonna happen. We are talking about MSAs and an organization or two to promote it. We are talking about the Census declaring the obvious.

Second, the sprawl between the two cities has already connected the two which is why the census has already listed Cincinnati - Dayton as an Urban Agglomeration. I know, go argue with the Census Bureau. Oh the irony, they are the same folks you so highly esteem when it comes to Columbus' census numbers.

[jbcmh81]

Originally Posted by TomJones123

First off, we aren't talking about merging cities (more specifically all the cities and townships between Dayton and Cincy) to come up with a large city of 3 million. That ain't ever gonna happen. We are talking about MSAs and an organization or two to promote it. We are talking about the Census declaring the obvious.

Second, the sprawl between the two cities has already connected the two which is why the census has already listed Cincinnati - Dayton as an Urban Agglomeration. I know, go argue with the Census Bureau. Oh the irony, they are the same folks you so highly esteem when it comes to Columbus' census numbers.

I know it's not merging cities, don't be ridiculous. In any case the point still stands. Combining metros won't necessarily help Dayton in the way people expect and hope for. I'm not arguing in this case whether or not they are or are not already or even should be, just that I don't really see the huge positives that people assume will come with it for Dayton.

UA is different than a metro and has different requirements needed to be met.

[TomJones123]

Originally Posted by jbcmh81

I know it's not merging cities, don't be ridiculous.

Originally Posted by JoeP

People saying that want that just so they can say they live in a "city" of 3 million don't get it.

I wasn't talking to you.

[TomJones123]

Originally Posted by jbcmh81

UA is different than a metro and has different requirements needed to be met.

I never said they were the same. Obviously, they are not. I do not think combining metros will help the city of Dayton in any significant way. It will, however, help the Dayton region, which is synonymous with the Dayton MSA. Dayton and it's metro are different worlds.

[Dayton Sux]

It will help in a media/publicity sense, when you see news reports on this "new" metro area. It might help in the marketing sense.

I dont see much of a downside in this.

It will, however, help the Dayton region, which is synonymous with the Dayton MSA.

Depending on how you define it the region as an economic region or media market extends further than the MSA. In an odd way Dayton is more the "Ohio" city than Cincy is since it influences or is the center for western Ohio as far north as Lima, and even into eastern Indiana a bit. Cincy seems less connected to Ohio and more a place unto itself. Insular. Vs Dayton which is more outward looking and regional in how people see things.

Interesting contrast btw the two cities.

[TomJones123]

Originally Posted by Dayton Sux

In an odd way Dayton is more the "Ohio" city than Cincy is since it influences or is the center for western Ohio as far north as Lima, and even into eastern Indiana a bit. Cincy seems less connected to Ohio and more a place unto itself. Insular. Vs Dayton which is more outward looking and regional in how people see things.

Great point. This really stands out to me having lived in Dayton and being in Cincy now. It's hard to classify Cincy as anything but an east coast city, in most respects anyways.