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If you move from north east or west coast, you will find the housing very affordable and property tax low. But don't plan to go back because Colorado (with the exception of Grand Junction) real estate market does not move much so your equity won't grow as fast.
I would think UV rates increase due to thinner air rather than actually being a miniscule amount closer to the sun.
Correct, and that is exactly what Charles is saying. At 4700 feet (or something like that...) you have half the atmospheric density as sea level. At 9600 you have a third and so on.
In 2005, I moved from NYC to Denver, Colorado to pursue a career in government. It was a fresh start for me and was a great adventure moving from a concrete jungle like NY to the relatively close mountains and healthier living in Denver, Colorado. The first thing I noticed upon driving into town was that there were hardly any mom and pop shops. Colorado in general has a knack for commercialism, such as Walmart, Black Eyed Peas, Chilli's, and Domino's Pizza just to name a few. Speaking of pizza, you'll also notice that every other pizza shop is named Brooklyn pizza, NY pizza, or just some Italian name like Vinny's Pizzeria employing every pizza maker other than a genuine Italian; hence, the terrible food and no clue of what a sicilian slice actually means. For those of you who don't understand, a friend of mine who was visiting from Nevada asked for a sicilian slice and was brought a regular cheese slice that was cut in half.
The Yuppies: Aside from the lack of mom and pop shops, Colorado's people lack originality. In downtown Denver and the surrounding cities such as, Lakewood, Englewood, and Littleton, people follow the same trend, such as the pretty boy mow hawk or black leather jacket with the orange pinstripe across the chest. As for the women, they all look the same, blond hair, blue eyes, lots of makeup, and high heels large enough to make them sound like trampling horses when walking down the block. A majority of these people you'll also find working downtown at some prestigious law firm, company, or other establishment that their fellow Colorado native helped them get into. In the two years I lived in Denver,I met everyone ranging from attorneys with less than a years worth experience working in top legal positions, to lobbyists with 6 months experience and a degree in English working for a high profile company all thanks to their fellow Colorado natives. As for the outsiders, good luck in finding something because unless your profession is computers which is a dime a dozen out there, you're probably going to have issues finding employment.
As for the drug addicts, I couldn't be more repulsed by any other human form of life in comparison. Most, able to work and perform daily activities, choose to walk the streets of downtown Denver begging for change with the same lame line, "can I have 50cents for the bus." Perhaps there is some truth and there is a methville somewhere I am not aware of but it would be hard not to be informed about this place since Colorado is a boring **** hole. Also, good luck if you're waiting for the bus because that's where they tend to harass the riders, and if you;re thinking about lighting up a cigarette, think twice because the junkies will flock to your smokes like moths to a light. They are relentless when it comes to begging for change and grubbing smokes.
As for the rednecks, there's not much to comment on other than their total disregard of appearance, such as the fat pot belly hanging over the belt buckle, cowboy hat, boots, and strong dislike for the Mexican, Russian, Italian, and anything else that is associated with the mafia. That was what I was told by a bus driver on my way to work one day for those of you curious about how I know so much.
As for the employment, I knew 10 people who moved to Denver from all parts of the United States and only two are still living in Colorado. Their professions ranged from fashion design to attorneys. The employment situation is terrible in Colorado unless of course you happen to be doing IT work. I had been given feedback that a lot of the positions that were advertised were given away to friends or family members before they were even advertised.
A few months after moving back to New York, I was offered a position in Denver and rejected it immediately.
Overall, my experience in Colorado was terrible. Although I enjoyed the mountains I could have done away with its people. If you're thinking of settling down and making it a place to call a home, think twice unless you are content with surrounding yourself with *******s.
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I knew something was up after the words "I moved from NYC".
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In 2005, I moved from NYC to Denver, Colorado to pursue a career in government. It was a fresh start for me and was a great adventure moving from a concrete jungle like NY to the relatively close mountains and healthier living in Denver, Colorado. The first thing I noticed upon driving into town was that there were hardly any mom and pop shops.
How hard did you look? There are mom and pop shops. Look harder next time.
Colorado in general has a knack for commercialism, such as Walmart, Black Eyed Peas, Chilli's, and Domino's Pizza just to name a few.
So does everywhere else where people live. They don't have those store where you come from?
Speaking of pizza, you'll also notice that every other pizza shop is named Brooklyn pizza, NY pizza, or just some Italian name like Vinny's Pizzeria employing every pizza maker other than a genuine Italian; hence, the terrible food and no clue of what a sicilian slice actually means.
Wrong again. There are plenty of authentic pizza places around town.
Colorado's people lack originality. In downtown Denver and the surrounding cities such as, Lakewood, Englewood, and Littleton, people follow the same trend, such as the pretty boy mow hawk or black leather jacket with the orange pinstripe across the chest.
Everyone in NY looks the same to me:
As for the women, they all look the same, blond hair, blue eyes, lots of makeup, and high heels large enough to make them sound like trampling horses when walking down the block.
Fake boobs are OK too. They only thing that counts is my total hormonal response.
A majority of these people you'll also find working downtown at some prestigious law firm, company, or other establishment that their fellow Colorado native helped them get into.
Happens everywhere pal, what are you complaining about?
In the two years I lived in Denver,I met everyone ranging from attorneys with less than a years worth experience working in top legal positions, to lobbyists with 6 months experience and a degree in English working for a high profile company all thanks to their fellow Colorado natives. As for the outsiders, good luck in finding something because unless your profession is computers which is a dime a dozen out there, you're probably going to have issues finding employment.
Wrong again. Is Denver's unemployment rate any higher than anywhere else?
As for the drug addicts, I couldn't be more repulsed by any other human form of life in comparison. Most, able to work and perform daily activities, choose to walk the streets of downtown Denver begging for change with the same lame line, "can I have 50cents for the bus." Perhaps there is some truth and there is a methville somewhere I am not aware of but it would be hard not to be informed about this place since Colorado is a boring **** hole. Also, good luck if you're waiting for the bus because that's where they tend to harass the riders, and if you;re thinking about lighting up a cigarette, think twice because the junkies will flock to your smokes like moths to a light. They are relentless when it comes to begging for change and grubbing smokes.
Every been to Santa Monica, where it is 70 degrees year round and homeless and addicts and beggers can live on the beach year round?
As for the rednecks, there's not much to comment on other than their total disregard of appearance, such as the fat pot belly hanging over the belt buckle, cowboy hat, boots, and strong dislike for the Mexican, Russian, Italian, and anything else that is associated with the mafia. That was what I was told by a bus driver on my way to work one day for those of you curious about how I know so much.
I see you get your information from highly regarded peer reviewed sources.
As for the employment, I knew 10 people who moved to Denver from all parts of the United States and only two are still living in Colorado. Their professions ranged from fashion design to attorneys. The employment situation is terrible in Colorado unless of course you happen to be doing IT work.
That sounds like a pretty scientific conclusion to me.
I had been given feedback that a lot of the positions that were advertised were given away to friends or family members before they were even advertised.
Happens all the time pal.
A few months after moving back to New York, I was offered a position in Denver and rejected it immediately.
Cool.
Overall, my experience in Colorado was terrible. Although I enjoyed the mountains I could have done away with its people. If you're thinking of settling down and making it a place to call a home, think twice unless you are content with surrounding yourself with *******s.
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vegaspilgrim: It seems like the first thing New Yorkers complain about wherever they go is the pizza... and the bagels. I guess culture = pizza + bagels.
I think you're right -- at least initially. I'm from the eastcoast, originally, but have lived out west for decades now. At first I was surprised about the quality of pizza, too. But I quickly learned that I could substitute that for good Mexican food!
My guess is that on the eastcoast (especially NYC area), pizza is a food that is eaten on a regular basis -- so one becomes used to having it a lot, and the way it is made there is very different than the west. Of course, now I rarely have pizza but often have Mexican food. It's a trade-off -- I just think that some New Yorkers aren't prepared for the wide varience in food and culture -- it's a form of culture shock.
So, I know it sounds silly, but I think you're right -- culture (initially) = pizza and bagels! Thank goodness most of us become acclimated -- and if one doesn't then they should move back! Just my opinion.
I don't miss the pizza & bagels from my short stint on the east coast now that I'm back west (crabcakes & sushi are another story), but I sure did miss good Mexican food while I was there.
You know what, how would you like if I walked into your home--uninvited--started telling you and your family how to live your life, why I'm so much better than you because I just moved into your home, that I'm more deserving to live there just by how much money I have or how much smarter I am than you backwards country bumpkins, how the way you've made your living doesn't suit me, and I tell you that the fact that you and your family may have lived in your home for decades or many generations and any heritage or traditions that you may have from that are "irrelevant" to me?" Then, when you start to protest about what I've just said and done, I say to you, "If you don't like it, why don't YOU leave?"
And you wonder why some "natives" go slap that sticker on their car?
I did not act like that when I moved to another state for several years, and I got along fine there. But plenty of people moving to Colorado DO have that kind of cruddy attitude, and it does make many long-time Colorado residents resentful.
I doubt very much if anyone is literally coming into your home, telling you that your lifestyle is no good, and telling you to change. That's how native Coloradans tell you they feel, and I don't believe there's much truth to it at all; rather, I believe it's a reflexive negative perception they have of outsiders which really stems from resentment of having to share their Shangri-La with anyone else. The fact is that they feel they were here "first", it was their own personal paradise before it was "discovered", they feel they have some birthright-given entitlement to keep it to themselves and they don't feel much like sharing it with anyone.
This perception that the majority of newcomers are constituted by an influx of rich Texas oil barons and obnoxious Californians trying to build up and destroy the mountain scenery with mansions is nonsense. The majority of transplants are hard-working Americans just like anyone else, who busted our rear ends to earn an education and who came here simply to make a living. We live in small houses, we don't bother anyone, and we're not really any different from anyone who considers themselves "natives", other than we were born somewhere else & came here later, effectively increasing the population. That said, we make it more crowded. And I think that's really the problem- the "natives" don't particularly like it crowded, and they don't particularly like to share their outdoor paradise. Any of this other stuff about trying to "change all of you bumpkins" or whatever is ridiculous & it's a copout. No one's trying to change anyone- most of us love CO for what it is, wouldn't change it for anything, & we're just trying to exist & make a living here.
The yuppies!! They are changing the city!! Poor people dont know where to go because all of the yuppies are taking over neighborhoods and raising the prices on homes! They try to be all outdoorsey and run and ride their bicycles ! Im sorry but that is probably the worst thing about denver!
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