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Old 12-02-2014, 09:48 AM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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If I cannot afford a 3BR 1200 sq ft house on 8000 sq ft land (X), I can afford a 1BR 600 sq ft house on 4000 sq ft land (0.5X) and 0.5X is not legal to sell, there is nothing unfair or unfree about that?

Note that your premise is false. I'm referring to a home I can afford.
Again, there are plenty of 600 sq. ft. homes. They are called condos.

There will never be a home you can afford while making minimum wage. Increase your income.
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Old 12-02-2014, 09:50 AM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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I'm trying to expand property rights and thereby expand the options available to property owners and to renters. Funny how a lot of people say they support property rights while denying property rights to others.
Lol. In what way are you "trying to expand property rights"? By posting messages on City Data? Tee hee hee! That's a good one.
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Old 12-02-2014, 09:51 AM
 
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Well, that would be the person's problem. If you are satisfied with a stagnant wage, you have to deal with inflation. If you aren't satisfied, then you need to do something about it.

A lot of people are doing something about it...

San Francisco votes in $15 minimum wage - Nov. 5, 2014

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=%2415+minimum+wage
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Old 12-02-2014, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Again, there are plenty of 600 sq. ft. homes. They are called condos.

There will never be a home you can afford while making minimum wage. Increase your income.
Condos aren't homes. They're apartments that you got tricked into paying up front for.
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Old 12-02-2014, 09:54 AM
 
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Again, there are plenty of 600 sq. ft. homes. They are called condos.

There will never be a home you can afford while making minimum wage. Increase your income.

So you agree the market is unfair and unfree if 0.5X is not legal to sell?
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Old 12-02-2014, 09:54 AM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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Holy effing crap. I know how to look on Craigslist, that's how I got into the last two rooms.

You cannot rent the room unless you tender a pile of cash up front. (Certainly hundreds of dollars, perhaps $1000 or more.) THAT is the problem. I'm paying so much rent now that I'm not in a position to save up the move-in costs.
Then get a second job. Or sell some inventory, even though you live with a dysfunctional drunk. Why is it that you can function well enough to post here, yet not well enough to sell merchandise online?

All of your hurdles and parameters are of your own design.
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Old 12-02-2014, 09:55 AM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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Condos aren't homes. They're apartments that you got tricked into paying up front for.
Nonsense.
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Old 12-02-2014, 09:56 AM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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So you agree the market is unfair and unfree if 0.5X is not legal to sell?
No. I agree that in your present circumstances, you cannot afford to buy a home.
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Old 12-02-2014, 09:56 AM
 
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Lol. In what way are you "trying to expand property rights"? By posting messages on City Data? Tee hee hee! That's a good one.

How about if I write up and circulate a ballot proposal? Then you could oppose expanding property rights.
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Old 12-02-2014, 09:58 AM
 
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That argument has been proven false over and over again but people keep using it. If you rent then A. You gain no equity. B. Your rent continues to increase every year. C. Your mortgage stays fixed every year (traditional mortgage). Such that in 30 years your mortgage costs FAR less than it does today due to inflation where your rent in 30 years is FAR greater than it is today. Moreover people do not have the financial discipline to invest the difference. D. Repair costs in these analysis are always way overstated and include optional upgrades that are controllable. E. In many areas owning is half the price of renting, so whats this magical difference number that youre supposed to invest? In that argument you could invest the HALF youre saving by NOT renting, then occasionally dip into the fund when repairs are needed.
What part of "if renting is cheaper" don't you understand?
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