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Old 06-18-2018, 09:33 AM
 
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Wow...what an answer, this falls right into the category of C-D responses as "well if you care about the homeless, how many have you invited to live in your home?"
Yeah that was a pretty ridiculous answer they gave. A lot of privileged people post here who are fortunate who do not understand struggling nor have any empathy for those who are not as fortunate as them. Their attitude is that they made it why can't you,,,, just hypocrites. that's the problem with Make America Hate Again.

 
Old 06-18-2018, 09:36 AM
 
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I understand that and it's a great idea for retirees or people who can actually find a job that pays enough to buy any house, but that's certainly not always the case, is it? Because if it were I think most of those houses would be sold the minute they go on the market.
Retirees also have to worry a lot about nearby medical facilities, particularly those that will accept Medicare.

Places with very low costs of living also tend to be places with less available health care and less acceptability of Medicare.
 
Old 06-18-2018, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Ah, the empathy card rears its head again.
ah yes, the empathy card.. you know just one of those things that made this nation great. But it will be so much better when we discard nonsense like that and realize that dog eat dog is the way to go
 
Old 06-18-2018, 09:48 AM
 
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Yeah that was a pretty ridiculous answer they gave. A lot of privileged people post here who are fortunate who do not understand struggling nor have any empathy for those who are not as fortunate as them. Their attitude is that they made it why can't you,,,, just hypocrites. that's the problem with Make America Hate Again.
And a lot of posters, myself included, were not fortunate and did struggle. How? By the mocked "bootstrap" method: hard work, smart decision, and frugal living.

So yea, I have every right to say "I made it, why can't you". Because I have.
 
Old 06-18-2018, 10:14 AM
 
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Retirees also have to worry a lot about nearby medical facilities, particularly those that will accept Medicare.

Places with very low costs of living also tend to be places with less available health care and less acceptability of Medicare.
Not true for the home we have for sale in the midwest or the low COL area in the south where we live now.
 
Old 06-18-2018, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Maybe comparably but it is actually a big problem in Phoenix. The rent is rising beyond the minimum wage increases due to perceived demand. I explained that and yet you double downed... Here is a suggestion, do some research the next time you post because you are wrong and yet you keep digging yourself deeper in this. FYI, there has been a thread about this on City-Data. http://www.city-data.com/forum/polit...emic-what.html
I’m wrong that Phoenix is more affordable for low wage /low skill workers versus L.A?

The average apartment rent in L.A is now $2251 a month

https://www.rentcafe.com/average-ren...a/los-angeles/

Meanwhile in Phoenix,Az it’s .. $955

You are really going to argue that Phoenix isn’t more affordable than L.A?

There isn’t that big a discrepancy between pay for low was workers to pay up that big different in rent .
Plus gas is more and many other things .
 
Old 06-18-2018, 10:39 AM
 
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It certainly is reasonable for you to raise this issue with your city & county & state economic development departments. What are they doing to attract higher value-add companies?
They don't want to, that is a problem here.

They have the "not in my back yard" attitude.

Once out major manufacturing left, only minimum wage service jobs were left.

Coupled with employers nation wide not caring about their employees enough to want to provide benefits, it's a problem.

Why are we still here? We consider it out duty to look after our 83 and 90 year old father's, who lived here, benefiting from the manufacturing structure that allowed tgen to amply raise a family on their single salary. A situation thst no longer exists.
There was also a tremendous amount of sub contractors who worked for the major employers, who paid well, but not quite as well as the major players, but a family coukd be supported by one earner. A part of that is that we no longer manufacture much in the USA.
As soon as our fathers are gone, though we'll be out of here. Hopefully to retire as,well.

This area has continuously turned down opportunities for both manufacturing and other things such as a mall to compete with the one in Branson, and a couple companies wanting to set up a headquarters for the north east region of the country. Nope as long as they get their state, county and city pay with full benies paid by the minimum wage based community here, they don't care about bringing jobs that do pay in.

A good portion of the county is also farming community, but due to the "hardships" of farming, even that is disappearing.
But that leads to the " picturesque country side here the leaders "don't want to change". But even tourist dollars don't come in to enjoy this "picturesque country side "!!


The NIMBY attitude is alive and well here.

Also the area, when it does gain a new employer, doesn't bother to train a workforce beneficial to the future employers , so they hire/tramsfer people from outside the area to run the facilities.

There is also no " promotion from within", it's we'll hire an outsider.

Even the real estate market has been stagnant for 2 decades, largely because wages have been stagnant. Those from the outside can easily afford a house here, but since 2015 it has,risen. We bought our house in fall 2015, just at the upswing of the competitive market enjoyed here today.

It is true that a minimum wage based job earner can afford a house here if they both work 2 two minimum based jobs full time, but our minimum is waaaay above the federal minimum.

And for someone like me who is physically disabled, any old job is not available to me, or I'd be mowing lawns for the town/county like I did when I was a teenager and early 20s.

As someone mentioned before and someone backed them up, NIMBY doesn't help matters.
 
Old 06-18-2018, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Redwood City, CA
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I’m not sure why some of you are so drawn to the economics forums but know so little about it. You participate in these threads and there’s many excellent explanations given, yet you choose to ignore it and just uselessly complain. It’s just stunning to me. At least learn something.

We've got posters here who can't even communicate in standard English but the people who take education seriously and are able to advance themselves are "greedy" and would "step over their dying mother to pick up a dollar."

I agree, all you can do is shake your head. It's the language of failure and blaming others.
 
Old 06-18-2018, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Redwood City, CA
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A lot of privileged people post here who are fortunate who do not understand struggling

How would you know? How could you possibly have any idea what other people have been through?

Speaking of "ridiculous"...
 
Old 06-18-2018, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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A good explanation of entitlement mentality that we see many of the posters here exhibiting


An entitlement mentality is a state of mind in which an individual comes to believe that privileges are instead rights, and that they are to be expected as a matter of course. An entitlement mentality is frequently characterized by the following viewpoints or beliefs:

https://www.conservapedia.com/Entitlement_mentality
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