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Old 11-14-2009, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Ocean Shores, WA
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First, all industries that directly affect the health and welfare of the citizens such as energy, transportation, health, and food, should be de-privatized and the profit motive replaced with the goal of providing for all the people.

Next, all US currency should be declared worthless which would eliminate the accumulations of ultra-wealth that presently control the country.

Then, the government would print new money and issue every citizen a million dollars. Since their basic needs would already be covered, they could do with the money what ever they wished, but when it was gone they would get no more.

Those who squandered their money would be sent to China where they could work for wages.
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Old 11-14-2009, 09:55 AM
 
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simple:

1. repeal Nafta/cafta/gatt......the 'freetrade' done by bush1/clinton/bush2, and now obama are killing us,.. 60 million jobs lost since nafta was passed by the democrat controlled congress in Dec 93 and signed into law by clinton
2. put back/increase the import tarrifs....include companies like GE that are HQ'd in CT, but manufacture in mexico/malasia...if it is made/assembled outside the states its an import
3. lower/remove the corporate tax.....we have the 2nd highest corporate tax in the world.
4. have local governments give property tax breaks for new businesses.
5. pass the 'fair-tax'

6. convert welfare to 'workfare', give people the training, and get them a job..there are too many people riding the system and we cant sustain it anymore

JMHO
We have the highest corporate rate but so many many loopholes big corps pay little or nothing.

States and local give untold billions in tax welfare to corps now and have done for decades.

The only job program in sight for the poor is the US Army, and hell will freeze over 17 times before Wall St. will allow NAFTA to be repealed.

Simple? ,Yes- possible, no way-no day.
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Old 11-14-2009, 09:59 AM
 
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First, all industries that directly affect the health and welfare of the citizens such as energy, transportation, health, and food, should be de-privatized and the profit motive replaced with the goal of providing for all the people.

Next, all US currency should be declared worthless which would eliminate the accumulations of ultra-wealth that presently control the country.

Then, the government would print new money and issue every citizen a million dollars. Since their basic needs would already be covered, they could do with the money what ever they wished, but when it was gone they would get no more.

Those who squandered their money would be sent to China where they could work for wages.
Under that scenario a million would buy you a Happy Meal and a shake.

Freedom is 40 acres and a mule(- prop. taxes) which is why the freed slaves never got theirs, wage slaves need not apply either.
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Old 11-14-2009, 10:06 AM
 
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what we need is a government that will step in and protect the dollar.
Socialist Sandy repeat after me...The gov't is not the solution....The gov't is not the solution....The gov't is not the solution....The gov't..
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Old 11-14-2009, 10:43 AM
 
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Socialist Sandy repeat after me...The gov't is not the solution....The gov't is not the solution....The gov't is not the solution....The gov't..
Since there is no solution, you're answer is as good as any.
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Old 11-14-2009, 11:05 AM
 
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Since there is no solution, you're answer is as good as any.
How does one go through life with this kind of attitude and expect to prosper? No solution? None? The economy will never be better? Ever?
All hope is lost?

All I can say is I'm glad I'm not you. Just know that for some things are better than ever and the future looks very bright. I spent all day yesterday just trying to figure out how to handle all the business that we have booked. It appears we will have no choice but to hire a few more 70K/yr workers.
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Old 11-14-2009, 11:27 AM
 
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Socialist Sandy repeat after me...The gov't is not the solution....The gov't is not the solution....The gov't is not the solution....The gov't..
you are mistaken if you think that i am a socialist! i have been opposed to every single bailout the GOVERNMENT has instituted, and not one bailout has benefited america.

the government needs to stop the crooked oil manipulation, stop printing currency, stop the wasteful spending, and start prosecuting. that is what i mean by government "intervention".
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Old 11-14-2009, 11:28 AM
 
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How does one go through life with this kind of attitude and expect to prosper? No solution? None? The economy will never be better? Ever?
All hope is lost?

All I can say is I'm glad I'm not you. Just know that for some things are better than ever and the future looks very bright. I spent all day yesterday just trying to figure out how to handle all the business that we have booked. It appears we will have no choice but to hire a few more 70K/yr workers.
good for you! maybe you should announce your business openings so people can start applying for these positions that you have available.
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Old 11-14-2009, 11:39 AM
 
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The offshoring of jobs happens for a couple of reasons.

One of which is simple capitalism. I hear people talk of the death of manufacturing here in the USA, yet I travel all over the USA every year and I see new factories being built all the time. Some big ones too. It's just that manufacturing here evolved into higher tech more specialized products.

The low skill jobs like making t-shirts and spoons went overseas.

When I first moved to Alabama in the 9th grade 20 years ago in the town I lived in we still had a number of textile plants making simple clothing. By the time I was in college locally, they had all gradually gone out of business, eventually replaced by higher tech jobs making auto parts, ear protection, electronics, helicopters, etc.

I think most people would rather make $25.00 an hour making helicopter components than making $5.35 an hour making t-shirts.

The second of which we do to ourselves and that is the onerous government bureaucracy and taxation. New York, California and New Jersey are great microcosm examples of what happens when you adopt a high tax and spend, anti business attitude.
I've worked in the manufacturing sector and none of the companies we did work for or the company I worked for still has a presence in the San Francisco Bay Area... Big names in industries like canning, paper mills, large earth moving equipment have left... others, like Simpson Construction Products moved out of the Bay Area... even the big Kellogg's plant shut down and the space is used for storage...

I wish I would have seen these jobs replaced with better ones... but the truth is they just went away...

Now, the Toyota NUMMI plant in Fremont with 5,000 jobs and an estimated 15,000 regional jobs is scheduled to close in a few months...

I remember when the Ford plant closed in Milipitas... it's now a shopping mall

NUMMI wanted to expand and upgrade the facility several years ago on land they owned and was denied because a family of owls lived on the property...

Also, the rolling blackouts due to CA not having the available electricity also cost NUMMI dearly...

I'm afraid, these jobs are not coming back... at least not here...
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Old 11-14-2009, 12:23 PM
 
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How does one go through life with this kind of attitude and expect to prosper? No solution? None? The economy will never be better? Ever?
All hope is lost?

All I can say is I'm glad I'm not you. Just know that for some things are better than ever and the future looks very bright. I spent all day yesterday just trying to figure out how to handle all the business that we have booked. It appears we will have no choice but to hire a few more 70K/yr workers.
Sorry, I forgot the world revolves around you and yours.
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