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Old 06-06-2011, 06:27 PM
 
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If he got the nomination, most Republicans would not vote for Ron Paul because he is not socially Conservative enough, and most Democrats would not vote for Ron Paul because he is a 78 year old White guy going up against a much younger more hip and cool Black man like Obama.

Obama is cool because he has Jay-Z on his ipod, so the under 30 years of age demographic of voters can relate a lot more to him than they can to an old White guy like Ron Paul who does not listen to hip hop.
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Old 06-06-2011, 06:37 PM
 
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If he got the nomination, most Republicans would not vote for Ron Paul because he is not socially Conservative enough, and most Democrats would not vote for Ron Paul because he is a 78 year old White guy going up against a much younger more hip and cool Black man like Obama.

Obama is cool because he has Jay-Z on his ipod, so the under 30 years of age demographic of voters can relate a lot more to him than they can to an old White guy like Ron Paul who does not listen to hip hop.
WRONG!!!!!!

Ron Paul is very socially conservative. He is pro-life and pro-capital punishment for serious crimes. He is against federal control of education. He believes prayer in public schools should not be regulated by the federal government. He believes in the right of citizen's to bear arms. And he is a baptist.You have to be kidding about this "not a social conservative" crap. You obviously don't know what a social conservative is.

Social Conservatives believe it or not care more about what I listed above then stupid "drug regulation." Most people realize they don't need the government babying them. If drugs were legalized most people would not do them. The only thing it would do would reduce crime and increase tax revenue. Most social conservatives understand this.

The youth loves Ron Paul. He pulls thousands to rallies at college campuses. Of all of the candidates, Ron Paul would pull in the most votes from college aged individuals. Ron Paul has tremendous support from young individuals-- they certainly think he is "cool enough"
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Old 06-06-2011, 06:53 PM
 
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WRONG!!!!!!

Ron Paul is very socially conservative. He is pro-life and pro-capital punishment for serious crimes. He is against federal control of education. He believes prayer in public schools should not be regulated by the federal government. He believes in the right of citizen's to bear arms. And he is a baptist.You have to be kidding about this "not a social conservative" crap. You obviously don't know what a social conservative is.

Social Conservatives believe it or not care more about what I listed above then stupid "drug regulation." Most people realize they don't need the government babying them. If drugs were legalized most people would not do them. The only thing it would do would reduce crime and increase tax revenue. Most social conservatives understand this.

The youth loves Ron Paul. He pulls thousands to rallies at college campuses. Of all of the candidates, Ron Paul would pull in the most votes from college aged individuals. Ron Paul has tremendous support from young individuals-- they certainly think he is "cool enough"
So social Conservatives want same sex marriage and drugs legalized ? Also if Ron Paul is so pro-life than why doesn't he want to make abortion illegal ?

Also do most young college Liberals agree with Ron Paul that the welfare system should be abolished completely ? Because if you think they do than you must be high off that mary jane.

A Black Democrat who wants a nanny state will aways be seen by most young voters as being cooler and hip than a 78 year old White man who wants to take away government entitlements from minorities and the poor.
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Old 06-06-2011, 06:57 PM
 
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WRONG!!!!!!

Ron Paul is very socially conservative. He is pro-life and pro-capital punishment for serious crimes. He is against federal control of education. He believes prayer in public schools should not be regulated by the federal government. He believes in the right of citizen's to bear arms. And he is a baptist.You have to be kidding about this "not a social conservative" crap. You obviously don't know what a social conservative is.

Social Conservatives believe it or not care more about what I listed above then stupid "drug regulation." Most people realize they don't need the government babying them. If drugs were legalized most people would not do them. The only thing it would do would reduce crime and increase tax revenue. Most social conservatives understand this.

The youth loves Ron Paul. He pulls thousands to rallies at college campuses. Of all of the candidates, Ron Paul would pull in the most votes from college aged individuals. Ron Paul has tremendous support from young individuals-- they certainly think he is "cool enough"

again, will not have the money and he comes off as old and boring.

the president is supposed to be an image of america at its finest and a representative of its future.

compare obama to an aging ron paul, image is a big factor. guys like obama have the image and charisma, and they win elections. guys like ron paul are meant to be behind the scenes.

imo, gary johnson is who you guys(libertarian, ron paul fans, etc) should be behind if you are serious about competing.
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Old 06-06-2011, 07:05 PM
 
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So social Conservatives want same sex marriage and drugs legalized ?
Oh so leaving these matters up to the states to vote on is being in favor of them?
Get a clue and quit making stuff up. You don't know wth you are talking about.

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Also if Ron Paul is so pro-life than why doesn't he want to make abortion illegal ?
Because he is pro-liberty. He says leave it up to the states and communities to decide. Instead of leaving it up to a giant federal blob to determine.

Gosh, you really don't know what a conservative is do you? Please go learn some history.
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Old 06-06-2011, 07:06 PM
 
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again, will not have the money and he comes off as old and boring.

the president is supposed to be an image of america at its finest and a representative of its future.

compare obama to an aging ron paul, image is a big factor. guys like obama have the image and charisma, and they win elections. guys like ron paul are meant to be behind the scenes.

imo, gary johnson is who you guys(libertarian, ron paul fans, etc) should be behind if you are serious about competing.
LOL charisma. Obviously you have never been to a Paul rally. There is plenty of charisma.
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Old 06-06-2011, 07:06 PM
 
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The more multicultural America becomes, the harder is it is going to be for extremely old White guys like Ron Paul to become president.
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Old 06-06-2011, 07:11 PM
 
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Oh so leaving these matters up to the states to vote on is being in favor of them?
Get a clue and quit making stuff up. You don't know wth you are talking about.



Because he is pro-liberty. He says leave it up to the states and communities to decide. Instead of leaving it up to a giant federal blob to determine.

Gosh, you really don't know what a conservative is do you? Please go learn some history.
I know what a Conservative is, and a Libertarian like Ron Paul is not one of them.

That is why they are called Libertarians, because they have a lot of political views that differ from Conservatives.

Only and idiot would believe that Libertarians and Conservatives agree with each other on everything when it comes to politics.
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Old 06-06-2011, 07:21 PM
 
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If the GOP wants to beat Obama in 2012, I think they need to find better candidates, ones who can actually reach out to the middle where most Americans are. Romney probably won't get the nomination, but I actually think that if he did, he'd stand a better chance against Obama than Palin or Bachmann.
The Republicans DON'T HAVE ANY BETTER CANDIDATES!
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Old 06-06-2011, 07:25 PM
 
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Romney isn't going to get the GOP bid, Ron Paul is.

Ron Paul vs Barrack Obama will be like a professor giving a lecture to a 7 year old child on economics, the constitution, and foreign policy. Barrack is going to spend half of his time on the clock thanking us for being there.
Please Barack Obama would make mincemeat of Ron Paul.
Also Ron Paul is a terrible campaigner, has NEVER won a statewide election and will never raise the money or have the campaign organization to seriously challenge for the Republican nomination let alone the general election.


Social conservatives will never go along with Ron Paul's views on the legalization of drugs or prostitution. Ron Paul is nothing more than the libertarian wet dream of the Republican Party.
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