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The GOP base is shrinking, Ron Paul is running for President of the United States, not President of the GOP:
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Remember when Paul belonged to the minority in Congress that opposed the Iraq War? Now, 62 percent of Americans say fighting the Iraq war was a mistake. You know the Republicans who criticized President Obama for presiding over the end of America's military presence in Iraq? Well, like Paul (and unlike Obama) 78 percent of Americans support full withdrawal. And in Afghanistan, another country that Paul wants to leave, two thirds of Americans want to see troop levels reduced. "Just one in three Americans believe fighting there is the right thing for the U.S. to do," CBS News found, "while 57 percent think the U.S. should not be involved in Afghanistan."
Like Ron Paul, Americans are also overwhelmingly against bombing Iran's nuclear infrastructure. And although I'll bet he wants to cut the Pentagon budget more than the average American does, a majority of the public prefers defense cuts to other kinds, and as Rasmussen found earlier this year, "Nearly one-half of Americans now think the United States can make major cuts in defense spending without putting the country in danger. They believe even more strongly that there's no risk in cutting way back on what America spends to defend other countries."
The neocons who are asking for the Ron Paul supporters to "fall in line" really have no idea why they are supporting Dr. Paul in the first place. It's not about the party, it's all about <drum roll> PRINCIPLE! </drum roll> We are not going to leave GOP, we are going to take GOP back to what it originally was before the neocons hijacked it. Let the neocons fall in line because we ain't budging!
Ron Paul or no one at all.
Obama thanks you for your tireless work on his behalf.
I won't be surprised if this post is ignored by the "Let's elect anyone but Obama" crowd. They don't like facts just as much as Obama supporters don't. Just give them 999 or something and they'll be happy.
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Originally Posted by bale002
Some great quotes in this thread.
As I have often repeated, the monster has two heads, but the body is one: the US is by now a globalist corporate fascist lite body politic, the ruling class's two party system is designed to feed red-herring crap to the electorate, the majority of which greedily eats it up.
Just one example: "he's a good family man". I got news for you: I know mafiosi who are good family men, even religious.
Machiavelli wrote "you look at the results" (si guarda alla fine in Italian, hardly the equivalent of "the ends justifies the means", a deliberate mis-translation by the British, back in the day, for propaganda reasons).
Looking at the results, then, over the previous 10-20 years, during the 2008 election season I suggested that the so-called republicans should just give up the charade and merge with the democrat party. The result of that would be the development of another party either through a break-up of the democrat party into one or more factions, like we have now, or a new third party.
But I notice that any talk of the "two-headed monster" is routinely ignored, as if it were taboo. Sound familiar? At least we still have first amendment rights, for the moment.
Ron Paul, then, may not be the most charismatic leader, but his diagnosis of the ills that afflict the economy on US soil, among other ailments, is spot on, especially his focus on monetary policy and its implications for productivity and productive investment on US soil. No other candidate, anywhere in the body politic of the two-headed monster, comes close.
In the event, however, the most likely outcome is that the US electorate will continue to greedily eat up red-herring crap until the ruling class re-engineers the body social into something even more pliable than it has been over the past 50-60 years or so, a process that may take another decade or so.
Looking forward at the most likely result, then, that means that the standard of living of the average American will continue to decline relative to the standard of living of the average Chinese or Brazilian, for example, and they will all meet somewhere in a mediocre middle.
Good Luck!
I've posted a lot of posts like this, only to be met by the sound of crickets from the peanut gallery. Most people on here ignore posts that don't follow the "Demopligans good, Republicrats bad" formula.
Great article. The GOP should not be held hostage by Ron Paul and the 5% who support him. If you're not on board with defeating Oblama, get the H-E-double hockey sticks OUT.
If the people who support Ron Paul do not join the GOP, then I dont see a GOP candidate getting elected.
After all, electing the lesser of 2 evils is still electing an evil.
Better to vote 3rd party than to vote aginst my beliefs.
I do know that I cannot in good faith vote for a political hack such as mitt. most of the rest do not bother me at all including cain.
Obama thanks you for your tireless work on his behalf.
This would have actually been a terrifying thought if there was at least one other candidate other than Paul in the Republican side I can at least remotely relate to (except Gary Johnson). So while I dislike Obama, I don't really see a difference if Romney wins or Obama wins - I know we are screwed anyway. Republicans won't cut warfare and Democrats won't cut welfare. Either way, we are doomed. So I'll just write Ron Paul in and so will my family, friends and in-laws, at my behest. If that causes Obama to win, then so be it. At that point, I won't care about who really wins.
If Paul supporters is only account to a piny 5%, then the establishment has nothing to worry about it. They can live without our 5%. The fact is we are a lot more stronger than what the establishment say we all. They are doing everything they can but it didn't stop us.
And in for the millionth times, we support Ron Paul is not because he is a Republican. Because he represent the people and people the people's interest first. Unlike all the other "representatives" out there, they put party first, follow by special interest and never represent the people.
If the only goal is to get rid of Obama so we can have another person to carry on the same exact policies that have been going on for the last few decades, then this country is at the point of no return.
Unless we stop this spending madness, this country has no hope. If these policies continue, there will be only 1 outcome: The giver (the "riches" aka tax payers or producers) will left this country and only the taker or the non-producers will be left. The USA will becomes the USSA (United States of Socialist America). Yes, you will get 100% employment just like the USSR, and not a damn person is producing anything. Government fixes price for everything, and nothing is for sell. You have to go to the black market for anything.
Interesting that you chortle/trumpet about the GOP base, shrinking. That's not good news for Ron Paul, since he is a Republican.
More proof that you are more interested in re-electing Obama than anything else.
My god are you this dense or are you just trolling? The GOP base is shrinking because people don't like the GOP! They don't like bailouts or endless wars. But! And this is crucial, but if the GOP were to nominate a candidate serious about ending our wars and our bailout economy he could attract new voters to the GOP. Voters like: BlueRepublican.org
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We are people who have never before thought of joining the Republican party, but are going to do so for one year to ensure that Ron Paul wins the Republican nomination for President in 2012. Most of us identify as Democrats or Independents and/or supported Obama in 2008. We believe that on issues that matter most – war vs. peace (Iraq, Yemen etc.), civil liberties (Patriot Act etc.), and crony corporatism (bailouts etc.) – Obama has pursued a course similar to George Bush. Our reasoning is laid out in this article by Robin Koerner on the Huffington Post that “went viral”, coining the term “Blue Republicans” for those of more liberal sensibilities who are registering Republican specifically for Ron Paul. A short TV interview with the writer of the article on Fox Business can be found here
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