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And yes, the point of stripping away their batgaining rights was all about disenfranchisement by weakening the very organizations that lobby on their behalf and support candidates who would represent their interests.
What about the taxpayers who pay the inflated salary and benefits of public sector employees?
The taxpayers, who were getting royally SCREWED by the unions and their cronies?
Do you know about the WEA trust, a organization created by and maintained by the unions, that stipulated the teacher's unions MUST get their HC insurance from this group at grossly INFLATED prices.
Surprise, surprise, when Walker's reforms kicked in, all of a sudden WEA Trust had to COMPETE with other companies for HC coverage and what do you know, they CUT their inflated HC premiums.
That is just ONE example of the corruption and FLEECING of the taxpayer at the hands of unions.
The following is completely out of context. There is habeas corpus; and then there is heinus unionous.
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What about the taxpayers who pay the inflated salary and benefits of public sector employees?
The taxpayers, who were getting royally SCREWED by the unions and their cronies?
Do you know about the WEA trust, a organization created by and maintained by the unions, that stipulated the teacher's unions MUST get their HC insurance from this group at grossly INFLATED prices.
Surprise, surprise, when Walker's reforms kicked in, all of a sudden WEA Trust had to COMPETE with other companies for HC coverage and what do you know, they CUT their inflated HC premiums.
That is just ONE example of the corruption and FLEECING of the taxpayer at the hands of unions.
Don't know about the prank call, but if you say so. By representing one group's interest, the tax payers' interest, as a whole are not represented. A progressive in talking about some legislation that favored a corporation would call them a special interest. I see no difference between this and public unions, as in this context, both are special interests.
Sort of the pot calling the kettle black.
So you speak for the interests of all taxpayers? Do you think that all taxpayers share your interests? Aren't public employees taxpayers as well?
What about the taxpayers who pay the inflated salary and benefits of public sector employees?
The taxpayers, who were getting royally SCREWED by the unions and their cronies?
Do you know about the WEA trust, a organization created by and maintained by the unions, that stipulated the teacher's unions MUST get their HC insurance from this group at grossly INFLATED prices.
Surprise, surprise, when Walker's reforms kicked in, all of a sudden WEA Trust had to COMPETE with other companies for HC coverage and what do you know, they CUT their inflated HC premiums.
That is just ONE example of the corruption and FLEECING of the taxpayer at the hands of unions.
And did their coverage get scaled back as well?
Also please explain the profit-making motives of public employee unions? Is there profit sharing with public employees as well? Is there some grand scheme by teachers to get rich off of taxpayers?
Don't know about the prank call, but if you say so. By representing one group's interest, the tax payers' interest, as a whole are not represented. A progressive in talking about some legislation that favored a corporation would call them a special interest. I see no difference between this and public unions, as in this context, both are special interests.
Sort of the pot calling the kettle black.
If you don't know about the prank call, educate yourself, then come back and render an opinion.
I didn't say I spoke for all or even a single taxpayer. It was an opinion, but let's get into some deductive logic, shall we?
There is a cost born by all taxpayers for public employee pension and healthcare benefits.
A) Less than a third of Wisconsin taxpaying citizens belong to public unions
B) All public union employees benefit by having their pension and healthcare benefits paid by all taxpaying citizens, whether or not it is in all taxpaying citizens interest
C) Public union employees receive a special benefit, thus they are a special interest
It is math, not politics.
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So you speak for the interests of all taxpayers? Do you think that all taxpayers share your interests? Aren't public employees taxpayers as well?
Good news. Now, the people who signed the petitions will have to show-up on election day.
This development is good news to the Obama people, who see this as an exercise in keeping the President's supporters tuned-up for the bigger fight later this year.
The attacks on the freedom and rights of Americans, in this case hard-working public employees, is a central focus of the GOP because labor provides such important support for the Democrats.
I think in states where Democrats are strong they should move to block tax-exempt status for the crazy christian churches who are so directly involved in politics. Turnabout is fair play.
It is interesting that you turn an individuals honest admission into a negative. It might be an indicator of your character.
I read and listened to the two tapes. It is amusing, but no more so than the kid who punked Acorn and Planned Parenthood, and now the NH elections folks. Since your comments aren't much beyond a smart quip, you can get by without educating yourself, or even being caught ignorant of a fact or two.
Can you comment on the WEA union kickback, that cost local school boards much more in school board premium support than the open market would dictate? I think this more than offsets a governor's contention that he had no intention of negotiating with a corrupt union.
Kickbacks are corrupt, no?
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If you don't know about the prank call, educate yourself, then come back and render an opinion.
Good news. Now, the people who signed the petitions will have to show-up on election day.
Some of them will have to show up 10 - 80 times on election day!
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This development is good news to the Obama people, who see this as an exercise in keeping the President's supporters tuned-up for the bigger fight later this year.
They're raving mad lunatics, of course they'll show up. They haven't completely fundamentally transferred America yet.
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The attacks on the freedom and rights of Americans, in this case hard-working public employees, is a central focus of the GOP because labor provides such important support for the Democrats.
You've got it all wrong. When public employees vote for the party that gives them more and more all they're doing is continuing to pad each others pockets with tax payer's money. Even FDR knew that.
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I think in states where Democrats are strong they should move to block tax-exempt status for the crazy christian churches who are so directly involved in politics. Turnabout is fair play.
Then what would they do with their tax money, fund the churches they do like? Maybe you missed the whole separation of church and state thing.
That's the democrats whole plan. They're using the Chicago way of politics till eventually they're all rich, fat and hateful all at the tax payer's cost.
Did you see the good ole tax payer funded employees at Solyndra tossing out millions of dollars of glass they said there was no market for.
What's a few billion between cohorts?
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