Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Bill Clinton knew Obama was not ready and now the liberal hounds in the press are starting to get it....after causing so much damage to a fragile economy. It was like putting an incompetent surgeon in the room to stop the massive bleeding. He just doesnt have the right stuff.
Did you hear Romneys speech now that was a Dud Obama laid out the GOP plans & said they will not fix the budget ever Obamas plan will work he even has experts backing him up
Ever try staying on topic, or is everything you do an Obama cheer?
He was bad, even his own people (the MSM) are saying that. Wake up,
^^^ Wrong once again Republicans have shot down Obama's Job plan many times & shot down a lot of other things to. Experts are saying that is the jobs bill passed there would be 1 to 2.5 million more jobs so you can not blame Obama for his jobs bill not pass
Those un-named "experts" wouldn't happen to be on Obamas payroll, would they?
Ahem. The Affordable Care Act was passed via reconciliation, which by Senate rules, could not be filibustered. It would be nice if everything could be passed without the GOP obstructionist filibusters but the GOP has been successful at holding up many Obama initiatives and nominees while hammering Obama for not getting things done.
So, it would appear that you are saying that the Obamacare bill passed by the senate is not the same bill that now exists. Indicating that the "reconciled" portions would probably have doomed it.
Nothing like rigging it so you can change the rules after the fact to anything that you want them to be without a chance of defeat. Shows the Obama administrations game plan plain as day, at least to those who do not depend on this administration to do their thinking for them.
The RWers should look at a transcript of Obama's speech. They at least would be able to see what Romney's economic plans are. They don't seem to be able to get that info out of Mitt, much like his 'super secret' tax returns. What is he hiding in them I wonder? Hmmmm.
Hiding them? Probably for the same reason as your hero is hiding his college transcripts, refused for so long to provide his birth certificate and continues to lie about his "accomplishments".
^^^ Wrong once again Republicans have shot down Obama's Job plan many times & shot down a lot of other things to. Experts are saying that is the jobs bill passed there would be 1 to 2.5 million more jobs so you can not blame Obama for his jobs bill not pass
My dear friend, Mr Obama came into office with the 111th congress. Democrats held a super majority in that congress. In the house the democrats controlled 258 seats while republicans controlled 177 seats.
In the Senate the democrats at one point held 60 seats which made their majority filibuster proof. Mr. Obama was in position to pass any legislation he wanted. His party held the largest majority in congress that I can remember. For 2 full years, Mr. Obama had cart blanch with the ability to get anything he wanted passed. Republicans were in NO position to prevent him from doing anything he wanted.
Neither you nor Mr Obama should now claim that the economy has not recovered because Republicans blocked legislation that would have made the difference. The FACTS do not support the allegation. IF there has been anything since that republicans have blocked that Mr. Obama wanted, then the fault lies with Mr. Obama having wrong priorities during his first 2 years as president.
My dear friend, Mr Obama came into office with the 111th congress. Democrats held a super majority in that congress. In the house the democrats controlled 258 seats while republicans controlled 177 seats.
In the Senate the democrats at one point held 60 seats which made their majority filibuster proof. Mr. Obama was in position to pass any legislation he wanted. His party held the largest majority in congress that I can remember. For 2 full years, Mr. Obama had cart blanch with the ability to get anything he wanted passed. Republicans were in NO position to prevent him from doing anything he wanted.
Neither you nor Mr Obama should now claim that the economy has not recovered because Republicans blocked legislation that would have made the difference. The FACTS do not support the allegation. IF there has been anything since that republicans have blocked that Mr. Obama wanted, then the fault lies with Mr. Obama having wrong priorities during his first 2 years as president.
This meme is so popular on CD that I should program my response on an F-key.
The Dems didn't completely control the Senate. Al Franken was seated nearly eight months after winning his Senate seat. Even if the Senate was controlled by Democrats (e.g. 50 seats), the statement ignores two other facts. a) there were Democrats in the Senate that vote as if they were Republicans. b) Republicans liberally used the filibuster to block legislation.
The Dems never had 60 Senate seats post-2008. They had between 56 and 58 seats. For that very brief period they had 58 seats with consistent support from Bernie Sanders and inconsistent support from Joe Lieberman. The Democrats hardly had 60 Dem seats, and hardly 60 reliable Dem votes. Then in a special election the following January, Scott Brown won Teddy Kennedy’s old seat, and was sworn in on February 4th. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/wash...et-so-far.html
The fact is, Mr. Obama's job legislation was requested after the period where Democrats lost the 60 vote working super-majority. Thus, the GOP Senators have been delaying the legislation in a hope to weaken the economy so Mr. Obama looks worse.
The Dems never had 60 Senate seats post-2008. They had between 56 and 58 seats. For that very brief period they had 58 seats with consistent support from Bernie Sanders and inconsistent support from Joe Lieberman. The Democrats hardly had 60 Dem seats, and hardly 60 reliable Dem votes. Then in a special election the following January, Scott Brown won Teddy Kennedy’s old seat, and was sworn in on February 4th.
They were passing bills with ONLY 50 VOTES. The fact that they only had between 56 and 58 Democrats is meaninless since both numbers are over 50
While Republicans spent the last several months threatening to filibuster the Democrats' health care reform bill in the Senate, and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid scrambled to secure 60 votes -- only to have the whole fragile arrangement blow up when Republican Scott Brown won the Massachusetts senate election last week -- we kept hearing that the relatively recent rise in filibuster threats was a bipartisan phenomenon. Both parties are guilty of this when they're in the minority, we heard.
It's true that there has been a decades-long uptick in the use of cloture filings -- often to overcome filibuster threats -- by whichever party is in the majority, but the best measurement of that trend shows an explosion since Republicans were consigned to minority status after the 2006 election.
Check this out:
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.