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^^^ Wrong once again Republicans have shot down Obama's Job plan many times & shot down a lot of other things to. Experts are saying that is the jobs bill passed there would be 1 to 2.5 million more jobs so you can not blame Obama for his jobs bill not pass
Where on earth did you get the moronic idea that republicans want Obama's imeginary jobs bill to pass?
Obama doesn't have a jobs plan, or any plan other than to bloviate and make a fool of himself and his followers.
Where on earth did you get the moronic idea that republicans want Obama's imeginary jobs bill to pass?
Obama doesn't have a jobs plan, or any plan other than to bloviate and make a fool of himself and his followers.
What DJBoutit refuses to bring up, is that the jobs bill he is crying about - didn't pass the Democratically controlled Senate - it was voted down there. Even some Democrats didn't see how giving $500,000 to Alaskan Airlines (borrowed from the "Bank of China" - in Obama's own words with interest) to paint an airplane into a giant salmon was actually benefiting the economy.
Mr. Obama while running for president said he wanted to rollback the "bush era tax breaks" given to the "rich". By rich he meant those making over $250k (or some such the actual number seems to be a moving target).
Lets also remember that the senate cannot filibuster finance bills and reconciliation is invoked.
Lets also remember that the 2008 elections brought a HUGE landslide victory to the democrats. It was landscape changing. In fact Mr. Obama stated at the time that "elections have consequences". The vast majority of Americans blamed George W. Bush and the republican party by extension for the earthshaking economic disaster that had just occurred. Obama had untold political capital to spend getting the economy in order. In those early days after the inauguration, no Republican was going to stand in Mr. Obama’s way as he made plans to reshape the economy.
Now clearly very few Republicans were willing to stand with the president in his attempts: 177 Republicans in the House voted against the bill. 1 simply did not vote. In the Senate 3 Republicans voted for the bill (Arlen Specter later switched to the democrat party). BUT Republicans certainly were not willing to stick their necks out to prevent the president from getting a spending bill he wanted.
Mr Obama at that point had every bit of the political capital and all of the support from the American people to get what he wanted done to help the economy. At that point, he could have very easily gotten a new tax bill done which would have reset tax rates to whatever he wanted. What did he do? He pivoted to healthcare and abandoned any legislative focus on the economy. Thus began one of the most acrimonious periods in modern American legislative history.
At this point, Mr. Obama committed himself to spending all of his political capital and expending all of the good will from the American voters on getting his personal version of healthcare passed into law.
I have no intention of debating the merits of the Obamacare. That has been done and will be done again ad infinitum. But what we must all agree on is that it was Mr. Obama and not the republican members of congress that turned legislative attention away from an economy adrift. It was Mr. Obama who chose a path that lead to massive defeats for democrats in the 2010 election cycle which ended up leading to Republicans finally finding footing to withstand Mr. Obama’s legislative agenda.
Even then, after the 2010 election, during the lame duck session of congress, Mr. Obama had the chance to get the tax code “fixed” as he wanted it. Republicans blustered and threatened but in the end, Republicans were helpless to block a democrat passage of a new tax plan that would have raised taxes on the “wealthy”. Instead, Mr. Obama and the democrats in congress passed and signed an extension of the Bush Era Tax Rates. It was Mr. Obama’s pin that signed the law. It was Mr. Obama’s party that wrote the legislation. Yet it is Mr. Obama who uses this as a wedge issue blaming republicans for protecting the “wealthy”. One must ask the question. Did he really want to “fix” the tax code or did he just want a political issue come 2012?
Mr. Obama can opine all he wants about republican obstructionism however he must do it sans the context of HISTORY. Had he remained focused on the economy, he could have achieved all he claimed he wanted but failed to gain.
Republicans and democrats differ on what we believe will fix the economy but we all agree that the economy in not fixed. Republicans say Mr. Obama did all the wrong things. Democrats say Mr. Obama did not do enough of the right things. End the end. The common denominators are the words “Obama” and “wrong”.
It is utterly disingenuous to suggest that the problem has been obstructionism by Republicans. Republicans were in no shape in 2009 to obstruct anything. Obama had all the cards. He simply did not play them. The question you have to ask is why? Was he incompetent? Was he foolish enough to think he had time to deal with the economy later??? Or was he simply lying when he said he wanted to roll back the Bush era tax rates for the wealthy?
Why would anyone want to (re)vote for a man who is incompetent, foolish or simply a liar?
I realize it was long... I appologize. for some reason I couldnt help myself.
here are the cliffnotes:
Obama got elected with a huge majority and had the American people behind him. He could have gotten anything he wanted related to fixing the economy.
instead of pressing the issue (republicans say he did the wrong stuff, dems say he didnt do enough) he focused on things other than the economy. That was HIS FAULT not republicans.
As for his not raising taxes on the "rich" he could have in 2009 but he didnt press the issue. He could have again in the lame duck session in 2010 he didnt. instead, he signed an extension of the bush taxes.
AGAIN NOT REPUBLICANS FAULT.
you have to ask, did he believe they were necessary to fix things and he failed? or was he lying and wanted this as a wedge issue?
Romney trolls are lame they think everything Obama does is a big time fail if he is wakes up in the morning or goes to sleep at night you will even say he is failing at that to. If you have really listened to GOP why in the hell do you want the bush ways over again when they got us into this mess in the first place and your ok with 2 more wars when he have no money to pay for them.
Romney trolls are lame they think everything Obama does is a big time fail if he is wakes up in the morning or goes to sleep at night you will even say he is failing at that to. If you have really listened to GOP why in the hell do you want the bush ways over again when they got us into this mess in the first place and your ok with 2 more wars when he have no money to pay for them.
Not sure what you mean by troll. I never said Obama has failed at everything. I have pointed out serious failures and clear moments where he has made promises and failed to deliver.
I believe that Mr. Obama's use of preditor drones has been very spot on. That has been a huge success and I support that action. I find it utterly duplicitous that liberals have not been outraged by the action, because had this been a republican dropping bombs out of the night sky, in nations we are not at war with, there would be protests in the streets and signs calling for the arrest of said republican president.
But I consider that a big success by BHO. Not everything the man has done has been a failure. But by BHOs on words he has failed on the economy.
i would be very happy to talk about what caused the economic meltdown. start a new thread and lets have that discussion.
No sir. While there are a very few democrats that have crossed party lines, there are also an equal number of republicans who have done so as well. Democrats certainly held 58 dem seats as well as 2 independents that you named who caucus with the democrats. for the first 2 years Democrats had utter control of congress and in fact Mr. Obama used that control to pass the largest and most unpopular legislation in American History (the healthcare bill).
Lets also note that BUDGET bills are not subject to cloture. All you need is a simple majority which democrats certainly had in the Senate and still have today.
The FACT is Mr. Obama had all the political capital in the world in 2009 and he wasted it on the healthcare debacle while leaving the economy in shambles. It is a LIE to suggest that Mr. Obama was stymied by republicans when he held the largest majority in congress in maybe a generation! Even if republicans have used the filibuster, there is a way to break them. There has never been a filibuster that lasted more than about 25 hours.
No. Olympia Snow is the only GOP Senator that comes to mind that would cross lines.
Your assertion that "the healthcare debacle while leaving the economy in shambles" has not been proved -- especially since it doesn't go into effect until 2014! The Health care plan is only unpopular because the GOP keeps advertising it as unpopular. When people learn what it does, they like it. Health care act: Affordable Care Act is unpopular with many, but many don't know the benefits - Baltimore Sun
Obama didn't have "utter control" of Congress. It wasn't that long ago. I remember the partisan resistance.
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