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Old 10-16-2012, 09:39 PM
 
Location: Limbo
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Look at that gorgeous hair!
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Old 10-16-2012, 09:39 PM
 
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Originally Posted by gomexico
Obama loosened Romney's belt, dropped his drawers, and inserted his ....

Yes. Romeny met his new mate. Face down on the mattress.

ADVANAGE Obama, in this debate.





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That is offensive to both gentlemen.


Yes, it surely is.
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Old 10-16-2012, 09:40 PM
 
Location: CHicago, United States
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It'll stop Romneys momentum, but I dont expect a bump.. Obama did good, but not good enough to convince people to ignore 4 years.
rift
I predict the "undecided" who were listening will drift towards Obama, after tonight.
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Old 10-16-2012, 09:40 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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In the CNN SCIENTIFIC Poll Obama 46% Romney 39%

Ouch....I know that's gotta hurt
It does. But, it isn't as skewed as the last debate.
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Old 10-16-2012, 09:40 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Why do you expect me to like polls that would allow people to vote multiple times? Why are you having such difficulty with this?
Well then man, tell us which polls you find to be accurate that doesn't allow people to vote multiple times, I would love to know.

And I love hearing you admit Obama won this debate, could you tell me again, it makes me smile.
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Old 10-16-2012, 09:40 PM
 
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Misleading title... I'll say it first. Obama owned Romney

and then you proceeded to nearly make the case that Romney won.

The OP is secretly M. Night Shayamalan and this thread had a twist ending.
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Old 10-16-2012, 09:40 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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CNN: 46 Obama Romney: 39

73 said obama did better then expected.
The respondents are 33% Dem, 33 Rep, and 33 supposedly Ind. So assuming all the Reps voted for Romney, and all the Dems voted for Obama, then Obama won 13:3 with INDs. Great night INDeed.
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Old 10-16-2012, 09:41 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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Interesting.......

Every time I checked Intrade today, they had Obama at around 61% (give or take a percentage point).

Since the debate, he is now up to 65%.
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Old 10-16-2012, 09:41 PM
 
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In the CNN SCIENTIFIC Poll Obama 46% Romney 39%

Ouch....I know that's gotta hurt

That is an overall poll. No break down on specifics. And not that big a win for Obama. Not going to do him any favors as far as undoing damage he did to himself after last debate.

The biggest thing of all is he failed on the economy tonight. So who cares if you think he did better over all. He clearly lost on the key issue
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Old 10-16-2012, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Eastern Colorado
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A blog? Keith Poole and Howard Rosenthal are very notable political scientists, but I am sure that your credentials exceed theirs. After all they have only been publishing papers on this topic since at least 1984.
http://voteview.com/The_Polarization...itics_1984.pdf

As for spending, Conservatives love it, if they are not addicted to it. Look at the Conservative icon, Ronald Reagan. He exploded spending and out debt. Look how Republicans treat candidates like Ron Paul and Gary Johnson. They lambaste them for their limited government views. Look at how Republican drool over Mitt Romney and his tax plan which he wants to offset tax cuts by defending Big Bird and planned parenthood.

The last two Republicans that were fiscally responsible were Nixon and Eisenhower, who would be labeled commies in the modern day GOP.

The idea that Conservatives care about spending, when they have three decades of exploding the debt is absurd.
do you even understand that there is a difference between conservatives and republicans? Not all republicans are conservatives, and not all conservatives are republicans. I agree there are plenty of republicans that believe in big government, and if you think they have anything to do with the fiscally conservative movement then you need to look around, Liberterians and other fiscally conservative groups are growing daily specifically because the republicans love to spend money.

As for the writers writing for 28 years, that is nice, but that does not change the fact that they can easily decide what criteria to use in their chart to get the desired results.

It is a well known fact that both Reagan and especially Bush tremendously increased spending by the government, with Bush introducing plenty of new government programs and bailouts that no conservative agreed with. Now you want to place a chart showing how conservative they were, are you kidding me? The truth is the last 6 years of his presidency Clinton was much more conservative then Bush was his whole 8 years.
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