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Old 10-26-2012, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Originally Posted by BajanYankee View Post
The Republicans and Democrats have had two fundamentally different approaches to the 2012 election.

The Republican strategy has been to, one, raise as much money as possible. Then get their base fired up over the prospect of "firing" Obama. They are more or less focused on turning out the voters already on their rolls. They are hoping that an intense hatred of Obama will carry the day for them.

The Democratic strategy has been to, one, raise as much money as possible. But there has also been an equal focus on expanding the electorate. For every blue-collar white man who's upset at Obama because the price of a BBQ sandwich has gone up since 2008, the Dems are registering a 23-year old Hispanic female. At the end of the day, it's a numbers game, and you don't get extra votes based on the intensity with which you cast your vote. You win elections by getting more people in your camp, which the Obama campaign has been doing since 2008. This is old-fashioned, Chicago machine politics being applied at the state level.
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to BajanYankee again.

Well said.

 
Old 10-26-2012, 07:52 AM
Status: "Freell" (set 14 days ago)
 
Location: Closer than you think!
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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to BajanYankee again.

Well said.
haha....the same thing happened to me!
 
Old 10-26-2012, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Originally Posted by BajanYankee View Post
The Republicans and Democrats have had two fundamentally different approaches to the 2012 election.

The Republican strategy has been to, one, raise as much money as possible. Then get their base fired up over the prospect of "firing" Obama. They are more or less focused on turning out the voters already on their rolls. They are hoping that an intense hatred of Obama will carry the day for them.

The Democratic strategy has been to, one, raise as much money as possible. But there has also been an equal focus on expanding the electorate. For every blue-collar white man who's upset at Obama because the price of a BBQ sandwich has gone up since 2008, the Dems are registering a 23-year old Hispanic female. At the end of the day, it's a numbers game, and you don't get extra votes based on the intensity with which you cast your vote. You win elections by getting more people in your camp, which the Obama campaign has been doing since 2008. This is old-fashioned, Chicago machine politics being applied at the state level.
Excellent post.
 
Old 10-26-2012, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Bajan Yankee - excellent assessment. +1
 
Old 10-26-2012, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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The great thing is that we'll be able to turn this machinery over to Hillary in 2016.
 
Old 10-26-2012, 08:28 AM
 
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Sunshine State News Florida: Romney 51 Obama 46 prior poll Romney 46 Obama 42
Gravis Iowa: Obama 50 Romney 46 no prior Iowa polling.
 
Old 10-26-2012, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Sunshine State News Florida: Romney 51 Obama 46 prior poll Romney 46 Obama 42
Gravis Iowa: Obama 50 Romney 46 no prior Iowa polling.
I found it interesting that RCP published this survey done for the right wing rag Sunshine State News but ignored a PPP poll on Virginia done for a Healthcare interest. There seems to be a perception that RCP publishes and advertises all polls, but that is not so. RCP is, in fact, a conservative leaning site that cherry picks polls and people need to consider that when looking at their published averages.
 
Old 10-26-2012, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Even Gravis Marketing has Obama leading by 4 in Iowa. That's half the lead NBC's poll gave Obama there. There's too much variance in their polls, but the trend line clearly favors Obama here. Given the GOTV operation there, I think it's safe to put Iowa firmly in the Obama column.
 
Old 10-26-2012, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Sunshine State News Florida: Romney 51 Obama 46 prior poll Romney 46 Obama 42
Gravis Iowa: Obama 50 Romney 46 no prior Iowa polling.
Good polls for Mitt FL outside ME, Iowa within ME.

Best info for the day thus far for Mitt is Gallup's party ID forecast for electorate R+1 nationally was +D6 in 08.

Bajan and a litany of libs are about to have some serious egg on their face.
 
Old 10-26-2012, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Originally Posted by Ponderosa View Post
I found it interesting that RCP published this survey done for the right wing rag Sunshine State News but ignored a PPP poll on Virginia done for a Healthcare interest. There seems to be a perception that RCP publishes and advertises all polls, but that is not so. RCP is, in fact, a conservative leaning site that cherry picks polls and people need to consider that when looking at their published averages.
Of course it does, it's always been this way. Armed with this you can now join the chorus constantly laughing at the neocons on this board.
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