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I don't know, exactly how "surging" can it be when you have 15% of the Iowa vote? That's not a comment about Walker but a comment about the Bloomberg headline. Bush, meanwhile is "struggling" with 8% of the Iowa vote. Rand Paul has 14% but he's apparently not verb/participle-worthy nor is Huckabee at 10%. Ben Carson has 9%.
The "I told you so" part of the Iowa poll shows Christie at 4% with a 54% unfavorability rating. Apparently, this only comes as a surprise to the news media along the NYC/DC corridor who live in a bubble and think Christie's problem is Bridgegate..
Although the Iowa poll was taken before Romney dropped out, poll participants were also asked to name their second choice candidate. Who do you think the Romney voters chose second? Mike Huckabee. Bush only went up one and no one changed places in the order.
Perry scored best (62%) on ideology being about right but it didn't help his poll numbers (3%).
I don't know, exactly how "surging" can it be when you have 15% of the Iowa vote? That's not a comment about Walker but a comment about the Bloomberg headline. Bush, meanwhile is "struggling" with 8% of the Iowa vote. Rand Paul has 14% but he's apparently not verb/participle-worthy nor is Huckabee at 10%. Ben Carson has 9%.
The "I told you so" part of the Iowa poll shows Christie at 4% with a 54% unfavorability rating. Apparently, this only comes as a surprise to the news media along the NYC/DC corridor who live in a bubble and think Christie's problem is Bridgegate..
Although the Iowa poll was taken before Romney dropped out, poll participants were also asked to name their second choice candidate. Who do you think the Romney voters chose second? Mike Huckabee. Bush only went up one and no one changed places in the order.
Perry scored best (62%) on ideology being about right but it didn't help his poll numbers (3%).
There is also stuff about the Democrats but the only significant thing I see there is the distance between Clinton (56%) and Warren (16%).
I've heard some news types say they think someone may come from out of nowhere on the Republican side but who?
I think Walker or Huckabee either one would be marvelous candidates, from a democratic perspective. Walker will be shot out of the saddle early because of his misogyny, and the Huckster would have to pick Pat Robertson for a running mate to find someone who makes his words sound like they came from a Christian. His bass playing behind Ted Nugent alone will kill a lot of the religious vote.
I agree. Who's out there? I personally think Jon Huntsman would be an excellent candidate, and I would support him over Hillary. I don't, however, think he can pass the neanderthal litmus test for right wing candidates. He is far too rational.
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I don't know, exactly how "surging" can it be when you have 15% of the Iowa vote? That's not a comment about Walker but a comment about the Bloomberg headline. Bush, meanwhile is "struggling" with 8% of the Iowa vote. Rand Paul has 14% but he's apparently not verb/participle-worthy nor is Huckabee at 10%. Ben Carson has 9%.
The "I told you so" part of the Iowa poll shows Christie at 4% with a 54% unfavorability rating. Apparently, this only comes as a surprise to the news media along the NYC/DC corridor who live in a bubble and think Christie's problem is Bridgegate..
Although the Iowa poll was taken before Romney dropped out, poll participants were also asked to name their second choice candidate. Who do you think the Romney voters chose second? Mike Huckabee. Bush only went up one and no one changed places in the order.
Perry scored best (62%) on ideology being about right but it didn't help his poll numbers (3%).
There is also stuff about the Democrats but the only significant thing I see there is the distance between Clinton (56%) and Warren (16%).
I've heard some news types say they think someone may come from out of nowhere on the Republican side but who?
This is probably why Romney chose not to run, dividing the establishment is not a good thing. The wings of the parties tend to stake up victories that way.
lets play this out like 2012.
Romney wins Iowa by a hair and then Bush for New Hampshire by the same margin, Lindsey Graham wins South Carolina and then Jeb Bush wins Florida.
Mitt may have been doing well in the polling ( popular vote) but he was going to lose the delegate count early on. Jeb Bush, Lindsey Graham, and Mike Huckabee take away the Southern path and Christie the mid Atlantic, Scott Walker takes away the mid west. Ted Cruz takes way the South West. He would be relying on New England and the West to win, and while that path is do able, he would have to tread money and time to get there.
But to the Point, Walker leading this early on isnt that big of an indicator either way for anyone for that matter. I honestly feel like who ever gives a speech right before or while polling is going on is going to lead in the next poll. Which is what seemed to have happened here.
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Dark Horse could be Pence. Wait and see.
Pence could run, but it is a little late in the game. FEC filings are mandatory after you spend 50,000. Since that isnt that much in the scheme of things, i doubt he will.
I think you did a really great job here unpacking the headline.... kudos The media of course want certain storylines to happen, whether the numbers back them up or not.
It is true that Scott Walker lacks a college degree? If so, is it possible to be elected president without one?
There's certainly no requirement to be a college grad to be president. Whether voters would choose to elect someone who is not a graduate is open to question, but certainly some voters on the right would see it as a virtue rather than a vice. Walker dropped out of college early because he landed a job without a degree.
If elected, Walker would be the first non-college grad President since Harry Truman. Harry turned out pretty well, however he became president only on FDR's death, and it was 70 years ago, and a completely different age. I'm not sure when the last non-college grad was elected President without first being Vice President and taking office on the death of the President, but it's probably back to the 19th Century.
Misogyny? Is this another lib approach for their 'war on women' broken record? Please support your assertion with something approaching facts, or reasons. [was QUOTE=cuebald;38262709]I think Walker or Huckabee either one would be marvelous candidates, from a democratic perspective. Walker will be shot out of the saddle early because of his misogyny, and the Huckster would have to pick Pat Robertson for a running mate to find someone who makes his words sound like they came from a Christian. His bass playing behind Ted Nugent alone will kill a lot of the religious vote.
I agree. Who's out there? I personally think Jon Huntsman would be an excellent candidate, and I would support him over Hillary. I don't, however, think he can pass the neanderthal litmus test for right wing candidates. He is far too rational.[/quote]
This is probably why Romney chose not to run, dividing the establishment is not a good thing. The wings of the parties tend to stake up victories that way.
lets play this out like 2012.
Romney wins Iowa by a hair and then Bush for New Hampshire by the same margin, Lindsey Graham wins South Carolina and then Jeb Bush wins Florida.
Mitt may have been doing well in the polling ( popular vote) but he was going to lose the delegate count early on. Jeb Bush, Lindsey Graham, and Mike Huckabee take away the Southern path and Christie the mid Atlantic, Scott Walker takes away the mid west. Ted Cruz takes way the South West. He would be relying on New England and the West to win, and while that path is do able, he would have to tread money and time to get there.
But to the Point, Walker leading this early on isnt that big of an indicator either way for anyone for that matter. I honestly feel like who ever gives a speech right before or while polling is going on is going to lead in the next poll. Which is what seemed to have happened here.
Pence could run, but it is a little late in the game. FEC filings are mandatory after you spend 50,000. Since that isnt that much in the scheme of things, i doubt he will.
Do you really think Lindsey Graham will run? I don't see him getting any money except from the war industry and McCain couldn't get enough from them. I know I would not vote for him as he's too emotionally overwrought (temperment) and lacks any kind of management experience...although he was a colonel in the reseserves, still throughout his military service he never left NC and he's pretty much been a lawyer all of his life even in the military. He also seems to be working on controlling his emotions. Still, I don't see him making it to my primary. If I had to choose the Southern guy, it wouldn't be him.
There is a long way to go, but as of now I see Scott Walker as the front runner. He does best in polling among the young blood candidates, or as Pres Obama aptly puts it, he has the 'new car smell.' He is also sufficiently staid to gain support from the GOP establishment.
Walker's big weakness is that he is not an inspiring speaker. Rubio is, so I think it will come down to a dogfight between those two. I will be happy with either of them as 2016 nominee.
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