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Old 02-07-2015, 07:00 PM
 
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Iowa straw polls don't mean anything.
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Old 02-07-2015, 07:06 PM
 
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Iowa straw polls don't mean anything.
True. When was the last time the winner of an Iowa straw poll was elected president or, for that matter even won the primary?
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Old 02-07-2015, 07:43 PM
 
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Only intellectual effetes would worry about this. Walker is much smarter - strategically and tactically - than the academia and union opponents. So, he backed away from a silly fight over this. Shows political smarts. The same smarts that won three elections in fours years.

Here are a couple of other terrible things he is doing for UW and students.

Walker's Wisconsin Budget Aims at Party Voters Ahead of 2016 - Bloomberg Politics
No, the University is already cut financially to its limit. Perhaps the university cannot raise tuition for two years but have you ever heard of that sneaky cost called, "fees?" You know, that thing that goes up when the Republicans supposedly lower taxes.

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But what will it mean for students? First, it will mean that a UW education is no longer affordable. An "efficient" system transfers the costs from the institution to the individuals that use it. Tuition will rise, but so will hidden costs: course fees, copying costs, access to services and technology that used to be covered by tuition or state support. Schools serving the poorest students will be disproportionately affected.
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From a student's perspective, "efficiency" will mean less contact with their instructors; fewer papers (who will have time to grade them?); less research; less independent thought; fewer innovative and interdisciplinary programs; fewer letters of recommendation; less academic and social support outside of the classroom.

It turns out that learning is actually a really inefficient process: It requires a great deal of time and care
Here's how Gov. Scott Walker's UW budget cuts will hurt students

But hey! Walker wants to build a new NBA stadium!
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Old 02-07-2015, 07:57 PM
 
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Walker can only offer "bumper sticker" solutions to complex problems. Another Sarah Palin here we come!

Scott Walker Goes National. (National Bites Back.)*|*Rick Horowitz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh4m7wapJ8M
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Old 02-08-2015, 05:07 AM
 
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Losers never figure it out. Some posters have been vehemently anti Walker since the days of the MIA Wisconsin Dem legislators and the student-led trashing of the State Capital, leading up to the passage of Act 10, the losing recall effort led by the same vindictive students and laborites, and the re-election of Gov Walker.

Three wins in four years. Must be a majority of low information, Fox News watchers in Wisconsin😄

At this juncture, it is impossible to know if Walker is capable of mounting a national campaign. I'll give the losers credit for consistency, though.
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Old 02-08-2015, 11:04 AM
 
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Losers never figure it out. Some posters have been vehemently anti Walker since the days of the MIA Wisconsin Dem legislators and the student-led trashing of the State Capital, leading up to the passage of Act 10, the losing recall effort led by the same vindictive students and laborites, and the re-election of Gov Walker.

Three wins in four years. Must be a majority of low information, Fox News watchers in Wisconsin😄

At this juncture, it is impossible to know if Walker is capable of mounting a national campaign. I'll give the losers credit for consistency, though.
Right. See how Walker's "big bold idea" of "US boots on the ground in Syria" goes over with the voters.

People are not "anti-Walker, they are "anti-Walker's destructive, big bold ideas."

Just look at WI now.

For a five dollar yearly decrease in property tax, school funding has been critically slashed and roads are crumbling. Walker's budget has a significant deficit.

The majority of his budget has to go to fund Medicaid because Walker refused to accept the federal funding for Medicaid. The same federal funding that citizens of WI contributed toward from paying federal income taxes.
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Old 02-08-2015, 11:48 AM
 
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As Joe said..."You lie" I'll be kinder though, suggesting that you are only frighteningly ignorant.

Wisconsin budgets are two year projections, with one year income/expensing. Same thing has been said about each of the three previous budgets. So, you are embarrassingly, for you, wrong. Don't believe me?
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When we asked We Are Wisconsin for evidence to back its claim, the group said it was using "deficit" as shorthand for "structural deficit."

But the two are different things.

The structural deficit isn’t a measure of any deficit of funds in the current state budget. Rather, as calculated by the Legislative Fiscal Bureau, the structural deficit is a rough estimate of how tax and spending commitments will line up during the next budget period -- in this case, for 2015-’17.
Still persist in your lie?

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The statement contains an element of truth in that state borrowing is at an all-time high -- but, flush with a nearly $1 billion surplus, it’s clear the state does not have a budget deficit.
Despite $1 billion surplus, group says Scott Walker raising state deficit while borrowing is at record high | PolitiFact Wisconsin

Look at Wisconsin now. As a part of ACT 10, local school districts are no longer required to buy their group health insurance only from the WEA Trust. That is or was the education union's cash cow. Nothing like a monopoly. Now, employees have better options and the school districts can lower one of their main benefit costs. There were property taxes reductions too, as result of ACT 10. The small decreases in taxes do add up. It benefited the teachers as well as all other property owning citizens.

Hmmm. Vicious cut, eh? Two and One half Percent. Brutal
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It’s worth noting that state funding accounts for $1.2 billion of the system's total budget of $6 billion. Walker’s cut in state aid would amount to 2.5 percent of the total budget.
The JS PoliFact Check Wisconsin noted this and the following. Apparently ThinkProgress lies too.
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A slew of tweets claimed: "Scott Walker to cut $300 million from universities, spend $500 million on a pro basketball stadium."

Walker's 2015-'17 state budget does propose cutting $300 million from the University of Wisconsin System over the two-year period.

The governor also proposes, in the form of bonds, a state contribution for a new Milwaukee arena. But it wouldn't be $500 million -- the total cost of the arena -- but rather $220 million.

For a statement that is partially accurate, our rating is Half True.
Scott Walker wants to cut college budgets by 13% and spend $500 million for an NBA arena? | PolitiFact Wisconsin

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Right. See how Walker's "big bold idea" of "US boots on the ground in Syria" goes over with the voters.

People are not "anti-Walker, they are "anti-Walker's destructive, big bold ideas."

Just look at WI now.

For a five dollar yearly decrease in property tax, school funding has been critically slashed and roads are crumbling. Walker's budget has a significant deficit.

The majority of his budget has to go to fund Medicaid because Walker refused to accept the federal funding for Medicaid. The same federal funding that citizens of WI contributed toward from paying federal income taxes.
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Old 02-08-2015, 02:41 PM
 
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Scott Walker’s War on Good Government

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Here’s a good government rule of thumb: foxes ought not guard the henhouse. When self-interested politicians rig the rules to protect themselves against independent scrutiny, citizens have a reason to be concerned. Common sense tells us that any politician – especially one with White House dreams like Wisconsin’s Governor Scott Walker – should know that undermining an independent government agency sure makes it look like you’ve got something to hide.
Scott Walker
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Old 02-08-2015, 02:52 PM
 
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Scott Walker’s War on Good Government


Scott Walker
Do you ever follow any legitimate news sources or do you just like hearing what you want to hear?
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Old 02-08-2015, 03:02 PM
 
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Do you ever follow any legitimate news sources or do you just like hearing what you want to hear?
Do you ever make a point, or just criticize those who you do not agree with?

Or are you against checks and balances of our elected officials?

This is the agency Walker wants to cut: http://gab.wi.gov/

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