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Old 03-04-2014, 05:30 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Rand Paul apparently (I only use this word because he hasn't declared yet) wants to run for President and the Senate simultaneously in 2016. But will Kentucky state law allow him to do that? And if he has to quit the Senate to run for President, the Kentucky governor is a Democrat. If the governor has to appoint someone to replace him, could that tip the Senate back into the hands of the Democrats?

"'Yes, I am working on clarifying an ambiguous state law that Rand Paul believes is unconstitutional if it is interpreted to bar running for re-election to the Senate and for president at the same time,' Kentucky Senate Majority Leader Damon Thayer told The Times on Monday. 'The purpose of the bill will be to make clear that Rand Paul or anyone in a similar situation in Kentucky can run for both offices in the same year,' Mr. Thayer explained."


Rand Paul looking to hedge bet in 2016 election - Washington Times

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Old 03-04-2014, 12:01 PM
 
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hmm, I hadnt heard about this, thanks for sharing.
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Old 03-04-2014, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Many states have changed their laws so a candidate can do both.
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Old 03-06-2014, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Rand Paul apparently (I only use this word because he hasn't declared yet) wants to run for President and the Senate simultaneously in 2016. But will Kentucky state law allow him to do that? And if he has to quit the Senate to run for President, the Kentucky governor is a Democrat. If the governor has to appoint someone to replace him, could that tip the Senate back into the hands of the Democrats?

"'Yes, I am working on clarifying an ambiguous state law that Rand Paul believes is unconstitutional if it is interpreted to bar running for re-election to the Senate and for president at the same time,' Kentucky Senate Majority Leader Damon Thayer told The Times on Monday. 'The purpose of the bill will be to make clear that Rand Paul or anyone in a similar situation in Kentucky can run for both offices in the same year,' Mr. Thayer explained."


Rand Paul looking to hedge bet in 2016 election - Washington Times

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The law looks like he can't run for both offices in the same year, meaning he would have to choose whether to run for President or Senate. The governor wouldn't have appoint anyone to his Senate seat, it would just have an open election with no incumbent running in November (if the law stands as it is).

He would not have to quit the Senate, however, to run, just would have to not seek re-election. And furthermore, it wouldn't have to tip the Senate back into the hands of Democrats, as the Democrats control the Senate. So, unfortunately, your post is quite flawed.
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Old 03-13-2014, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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The law looks like he can't run for both offices in the same year, meaning he would have to choose whether to run for President or Senate. The governor wouldn't have appoint anyone to his Senate seat, it would just have an open election with no incumbent running in November (if the law stands as it is).

He would not have to quit the Senate, however, to run, just would have to not seek re-election. And furthermore, it wouldn't have to tip the Senate back into the hands of Democrats, as the Democrats control the Senate. So, unfortunately, your post is quite flawed.
Yup, I definitely messed up on the quitting the Senate part but to add insult to injury I also assumed the Republicans could take the Senate in 2016 by maybe only one seat and that the governor's (erroneous part) replacement (finishing out Paul's term) would have a leg up on winning it in 2016 throwing it to the Democrats (not really back to them). Sorry, you're right.

But, the part about Paul running for two offices and Kentucky's law is accurate so I give myself a D instead of an F.
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Old 03-13-2014, 08:50 AM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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The law looks like he can't run for both offices in the same year, meaning he would have to choose whether to run for President or Senate. The governor wouldn't have appoint anyone to his Senate seat, it would just have an open election with no incumbent running in November (if the law stands as it is).
I doubt Rand Paul would stay in the Senate if he ran for President
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Old 03-13-2014, 09:09 AM
 
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Rand Paul apparently (I only use this word because he hasn't declared yet) wants to run for President and the Senate simultaneously in 2016. But will Kentucky state law allow him to do that? And if he has to quit the Senate to run for President, the Kentucky governor is a Democrat. If the governor has to appoint someone to replace him, could that tip the Senate back into the hands of the Democrats?

"'Yes, I am working on clarifying an ambiguous state law that Rand Paul believes is unconstitutional if it is interpreted to bar running for re-election to the Senate and for president at the same time,' Kentucky Senate Majority Leader Damon Thayer told The Times on Monday. 'The purpose of the bill will be to make clear that Rand Paul or anyone in a similar situation in Kentucky can run for both offices in the same year,' Mr. Thayer explained."


Rand Paul looking to hedge bet in 2016 election - Washington Times

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I am glad he is planning ahead if Senator Paul should run. Rand would be a Great Consideration for the Republican and would indeed offer a clear alternative to Ms. Clinton . That is if she decides to run. Ms. Clinton and Bill have a sorted past and may not be the pick for the Dem's.

This should be interesting to us News Junkies!
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Old 03-13-2014, 11:06 AM
 
Location: South Bay
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Yup, I definitely messed up on the quitting the Senate part but to add insult to injury I also assumed the Republicans could take the Senate in 2016 by maybe only one seat and that the governor's (erroneous part) replacement (finishing out Paul's term) would have a leg up on winning it in 2016 throwing it to the Democrats (not really back to them). Sorry, you're right.

But, the part about Paul running for two offices and Kentucky's law is accurate so I give myself a D instead of an F.
I'd give you a C+, since after Florida, the Rs taking back the Senate seems more than plausible. I'm a Paul supporter, so I'm hoping the bill is pushed through to allow him to run without sacrificing the lock he has on his seat. With a D in the governors chair, and the condition of the DNC after these dismal years in power, I'd say he'll veto it.

Joe Biden and Joe Lieberman both ran for VP and the Senate in the same years.

On the other hand, Senator Thayer believes Paul can run for both offices without a law change.


Rand Paul 2016
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Old 03-13-2014, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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I'd give you a C+, since after Florida, the Rs taking back the Senate seems more than plausible. I'm a Paul supporter, so I'm hoping the bill is pushed through to allow him to run without sacrificing the lock he has on his seat. With a D in the governors chair, and the condition of the DNC after these dismal years in power, I'd say he'll veto it.

Joe Biden and Joe Lieberman both ran for VP and the Senate in the same years.

On the other hand, Senator Thayer believes Paul can run for both offices without a law change.


Rand Paul 2016
I was under the impression it depended on the individual state. ??
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Old 03-13-2014, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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We will know Paul's intentions next year. He still has over 18 months to leave the Senate, and that's more than enough time to hold a special election or a Gubernatorial appointment to replace him.

Personally, I don't think he'll run for Prez. He's still a freshman senator, and I think he's more likely to be properly cautious and seek another term first, then make a run in 2020 after he knows if the winds have shifted in his favor.

But anything is possible at this point. I'm sure he is not the only Senator pondering 2016.
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