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I would agree that he wasn't all that great as a student. I also think that the plagiarism scandal was just another Political Dirt scraping mission to discredit him from running . When he was accused, Biden released a 65-page file, obtained by the Senator from the Syracuse University College of Law, that he said contained all the records of his years there. It disclosed relatively poor grades in college and law school, mixed evaluations from teachers and details of the plagiarism. Both the current dean of the law school and Mr. Biden's professor today played down the incident of plagiarism. Brushing aside any suggestion that he might be forced to withdraw from the Presidential race, Mr. Biden declared at the news conference, ''I'm in the race to stay, I'm in the race to win, and here I come.'' Mr. Biden also suggested that the recent damaging information about him had originated with other campaigns, which he did not identify, and that it had emerged now because he was enjoying a chance in the limelight . He said,
''Look, I'm a big boy, I've been in politics for 15 years. This is not my style. If they want to do it this way, so be it.'' The file distributed by the Senator included a law school faculty report, dated Dec. 1, 1965, that concluded that Mr. Biden had ''used five pages from a published law review article without quotation or attribution.'' He never tried to hide anything.
To me, this was no more than a dirt digger expedition, like some rival or Republican Campaign would bring up, as they have many times before. Thy love to find any mistake one has made, and build it up so it seems like a Mass Murder, and then harp on it over and over, as if they had clean hands their whole lives. The funny part is that those who do this have never even come close to accomplishing what he has, and never will amount to anything. .
And, when one enters politics, "dirt digger expedition" is to be expected. If you don't want your dirt dug up, you stay low key. I just don't have sympathy for anyone that should know what to expect.
I would have to say on the cheating incident that I was amazed that Biden had not learned about quoting sources in high school because we wrote papers and were taught that. That did make me a little suspicious.
No fan of grandpa Biden but I guess his record must be really good if people have to go all the way to college to find dirt on him. I mean we are talking about how many century ago? Did he plaglarize books or scrolls?
I think Biden is a quality choice. Certainly has less baggage and is likable. I think he will do well. Oh, and this is an adult conversation about Biden. For those of you have 'Liked" Clearasil (did I spell that right?) on you "Face" page, Donald Trump is not going to be the Republican Nominee. Not going to happen. He will however, deliver the election to the Democrats. He will switch to become an independent candidate. Basically, Trump is for sale. In a 3-Way contest, Democrats will win, easily. But either way, Trump will never be president. He is too smart for that.
Dunno if he's too smart for it, but Trump is not a candidate to be taken seriously. Or, at least he is not a candidate who can win. As you noted, there is danger in his 3rd party candidacy.
I think Trump's ego will not allow him to continue if he sees a certain loss. When we see a rapid drop in poll numbers, I think he'll drop out. He'll say, "People are too stupid to vote for me".
Hillary can't be President.
Biden would reset US history if he won. A VP in an unpopular administration? Hasn't happened that I know of. He would lose, not because of "dirt" but because of his being part of the Obama administration.
Bill Clinton finished with a 65% approval rating and Gore still couldn't take the White House. Obama ranges around 47% approval.
No fan of grandpa Biden but I guess his record must be really good if people have to go all the way to college to find dirt on him. I mean we are talking about how many century ago? Did he plaglarize books or scrolls?
No one really had to dig far, this has been a known fact for decades. I would agree, if it had just come out, but stuff like that does not go away, especially when he was in law school at the time.
Biden meets with the person ultimately in charge of the Justice Department, and things start happening that makes it look like Biden may run for President. Does anybody, besides me, think that Obama tipped Biden off that an indictment may be imminent for Hillary and that he needed someone to run against the self avowed Socialist?
People are missing the Forest, while trying to find a Tree.
Biden doesn't have to "meet with the person ultimately in charge of the Justice Department" to find out anything. The Executive Office of the President (and Vice President) is set up so that they have their own People (Office of Administration) in every Department, every Agency within the US Government. Within the Office of Administration is the Office of General Counsel
The Office of Administration AND the Office of General Council (OGC) which is one of it's divisions is the Presidents Pipeline into all of Government. Everything has to be cleared through the Office of General Council ...... and I do mean Everything, even anything to do with Archives.
Let's make it simple -
1. The State Department has an OGC
2. The Inspector Generals' Office has an OGC
3. The Justice Department has an Office of OGC
4. The FBI has an Office of OGC
5. The NSA & the DOD ..... and every other Agency/Department have an OGC
This means that whatever is going on with all the Clinton Investigations is both KNOWN to the President, and can be somewhat controlled by the President - via his Lawyers, the Office of Administration and the Office of General Counsel. The only things they don't know for sure is what is going on in the Federal Courts on the FOIA lawsuits. They can't control the Judges in a couple of these cases. It is the State Department Office of General Counsel (which directly reports to Obama) that is vetting the Clinton Emails and deciding what to redact or leave exposed.
IF Joe Biden declares in Candidacy - it is because he KNOWS that Hillary Clinton is going to be charged with something that will make her an un-viable candidate.
The White House announced this morning that Joe Biden will attend the Labor Day Rally & Parade in Pittsburg, PA. Expected attendance is 60,000 - Biden is a Pennsylvania native and this is one of the Largest Labor Day events in the USA. Just saying'
IF Joe Biden declares in Candidacy - it is because he KNOWS that Hillary Clinton is going to be charged with something that will make her an un-viable candidate.
The White House announced this morning that Joe Biden will attend the Labor Day Rally & Parade in Pittsburg, PA. Expected attendance is 60,000 - Biden is a Pennsylvania native and this is one of the Largest Labor Day events in the USA. Just saying'
On your first point, you are almost correct. The Biden camp is trying to assess if the Hillary camp is in trouble or not. It won't depend upon the criminal charge thing though that would be icing on that cake.
On the second, what you are saying is that Biden is attending an event that has 60,000 people coming. Not exactly the same as 60,000 are coming to see Biden. Until he actually declares his candidacy, he's not going to be on anyone's radar screen beyond the interest that a VP would normally draw.
There is this to ponder. IF he doesn't run, then he joins Dick Cheney as the only two sitting VPs not to have run when their President leaves office since before FDR.
On your first point, you are almost correct. The Biden camp is trying to assess if the Hillary camp is in trouble or not. It won't depend upon the criminal charge thing though that would be icing on that cake.
On the second, what you are saying is that Biden is attending an event that has 60,000 people coming. Not exactly the same as 60,000 are coming to see Biden. Until he actually declares his candidacy, he's not going to be on anyone's radar screen beyond the interest that a VP would normally draw.
There is this to ponder. IF he doesn't run, then he joins Dick Cheney as the only two sitting VPs not to have run when their President leaves office since before FDR.
He is on everyone's Radar because of the White House hints that he is running AND the "What would Beau say" rhetoric. The fact that he is attending one of the Major Union events on Labor Day is just another "hmmm" Ponder. Agreed, it's not that they are "coming to see Biden" - BUT a crowd on 60,000 is nothing to sneeze at if someone chose to make a Big Announcement. Or even to Test the Waters.
People are missing the Forest, while trying to find a Tree.
Biden doesn't have to "meet with the person ultimately in charge of the Justice Department" to find out anything. The Executive Office of the President (and Vice President) is set up so that they have their own People (Office of Administration) in every Department, every Agency within the US Government. Within the Office of Administration is the Office of General Counsel
The Office of Administration AND the Office of General Council (OGC) which is one of it's divisions is the Presidents Pipeline into all of Government. Everything has to be cleared through the Office of General Council ...... and I do mean Everything, even anything to do with Archives.
Let's make it simple -
1. The State Department has an OGC
2. The Inspector Generals' Office has an OGC
3. The Justice Department has an Office of OGC
4. The FBI has an Office of OGC
5. The NSA & the DOD ..... and every other Agency/Department have an OGC
This means that whatever is going on with all the Clinton Investigations is both KNOWN to the President, and can be somewhat controlled by the President - via his Lawyers, the Office of Administration and the Office of General Counsel. The only things they don't know for sure is what is going on in the Federal Courts on the FOIA lawsuits. They can't control the Judges in a couple of these cases. It is the State Department Office of General Counsel (which directly reports to Obama) that is vetting the Clinton Emails and deciding what to redact or leave exposed.
IF Joe Biden declares in Candidacy - it is because he KNOWS that Hillary Clinton is going to be charged with something that will make her an un-viable candidate.
The White House announced this morning that Joe Biden will attend the Labor Day Rally & Parade in Pittsburg, PA. Expected attendance is 60,000 - Biden is a Pennsylvania native and this is one of the Largest Labor Day events in the USA. Just saying'
He already knows. The problem is he and his family are still dealing with Beau's death. He doesn't know if they can handle the toll of what it takes to run again.
He already knows. The problem is he and his family are still dealing with Beau's death. He doesn't know if they can handle the toll of what it takes to run again.
It's a very serious decision - it's a decision that the entire family has to get behind and understand the sacrifices of both the Campaign and the Job. Biden dropped into a Wilmington, DE political meeting last week and gave a little speech.
“What would Beau do?” Vice President Biden said this weekend during a surprise drop-by at an annual Delaware political event in Lewes.
IF Biden enters the race - you will read (and hear) that a lot ...... What would Beau do?
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