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Fresh material is what you expect from an entertainer. It has no value in politics, unless you need to be entertained.
Sanders is trying to drive home the very real problems this country has. He has to repeat it over and over because there are so many thick-skulled voters who can't see beyond slick ads and a biased media.
You do not understand the concept of "Stump Speeches"..... you see when a candidate is going around the country they have to plan a single stump speech to introduce themselves to a new crowd/set of voters who might be tuning in. They can't go changing their speech in every location as they would run out of stuff to say and get their messaged muddled.
This is common sense 101.... 30 years experience voting and you don't understand this? pfffftttttttt
1. middle class is shrinking
2. job is going overseas
3. income inequality.
4. shouldn't be charging veterans for health care
But I cannot agree with his solutions. Bernie Sanders is a socialist, and a radical far left nutjob. I am sorry, but I hope this is okay with you that this is just my own humble opinion.
I cannot vote for somebody I don't agree with. =(
Bernie is a Democratic Socialist. He and Trump agree on many of the same issues. The difference is - Bernie has proposed solutions and Trump has not. "I'll make America great again" is not a policy paper.
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Him being the socialist is not my opinion,
but I will try to explain the nutjob part.
A very wise women once said, "The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money."
His agenda includes an estimated $15 trillion for a government-run health-care program that covers every American, plus large sums to rebuild roads and bridges, expand Social Security and make tuition free at public colleges.
To pay for it, Mr. Sanders, has so far detailed tax increases that could bring in as much as $6.5 trillion over 10 years, according to his staff.
I read the above on the internet I don't remember the sources. I have been following him for sometimes, and I just cannot agree with him on almost everything.
He is appealing to a lot of people, I get that. He sounds like a genuinely nice guy who wants to do nice things for people, I get that too. But his plan is unrealistic to say the least.
Well, I understand your position. But no one believes that Trump is going to deport 11,000 immigrants either - OR build that wall. And if he does - what is the cost???? I'm afraid there are going to be some very disappointed people.
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You do not understand the concept of "Stump Speeches"..... you see when a candidate is going around the country they have to plan a single stump speech to introduce themselves to a new crowd/set of voters who might be tuning in. They can't go changing their speech in every location as they would run out of stuff to say and get their messaged muddled.
This is common sense 101.... 30 years experience voting and you don't understand this? pfffftttttttt
His speech last night was actually supposed to be a policy speech. Instead, he talked about himself. Par for the course.
I want to hear some real solutions coming out of his mouth. Eventually, he will have to present some solid facts and figures and exactly HOW he is going to accomplish all this. His 'I'll raise taxes on any company that goes out of the country" is a pipe dream unless he gets Congress to go along with it. I wonder if he knows that?
Well, I understand your position. But no one believes that Trump is going to deport 11,000 immigrants either - OR build that wall. And if he does - what is the cost???? I'm afraid there are going to be some very disappointed people.
well, roundup 11 million illegals is unrealistic, I would agree. But build that wall and using military to secure the border is really not that hard to do.
Neither party wanted to fix the border problem, Trump would do it. Trump will secure the border, and do something very kind for the veterans. Two main reasons why I would vote for Trump.
I like Sanders, but I don't agree with the principles of socialism. That is all. I know British socialism is back, and it seems like the trend, but I don't agree with it and socialism scares me. =(
I know Bernie says he's a Socialist but when I look at his voting record and the things he has stood for, I'd call him a supporter of the common man. There are virtually no other politicians in office today or that are running for president that I can say that about. They are all beholden to the elite because of big campaign donations.
We have tried to get money out of politics but the people we vote into office refuse to do anything about it because they would be biting the hand that feeds them. I doubt I'll see it in my lifetime but I am willing to work for the day when politicians act on behalf of the people who voted for them and not the few elite who made big contributions to their war chest. I think Bernie is a step in the right direction.
The Socialist claim doesn't scare me. Certainly not as much as the fact we now live in an Oligarchy. Voters can change that if they would only stop getting their candidate information from the TV and quips on the Internet. But will they ever do the work necessary to dig up the real facts?
Like I said, I doubt I'll see that in my lifetime. But you gotta start turning the ship now if you don't like the direction it's going.
I know Bernie says he's a Socialist but when I look at his voting record and the things he has stood for, I'd call him a supporter of the common man. There are virtually no other politicians in office today or that are running for president that I can say that about. They are all beholden to the elite because of big campaign donations.
We have tried to get money out of politics but the people we vote into office refuse to do anything about it because they would be biting the hand that feeds them. I doubt I'll see it in my lifetime but I am willing to work for the day when politicians act on behalf of the people who voted for them and not the few elite who made big contributions to their war chest. I think Bernie is a step in the right direction.
The Socialist claim doesn't scare me. Certainly not as much as the fact we now live in an Oligarchy. Voters can change that if they would only stop getting their candidate information from the TV and quips on the Internet. But will they ever do the work necessary to dig up the real facts?
Like I said, I doubt I'll see that in my lifetime. But you gotta start turning the ship now if you don't like the direction it's going.
Sanders has a track record of supporting the lower and middle classes, supporting things like paternity leave, reducing student debt, raising minimum wage and mandatory vacation and sick leave.
but none of the above really concerns me, I know this is incredibly and sickly selfish for me to say, but hopefully no one attacks me for being honest here.
However, like I posted earlier. I do believe strong middle class makes a strong America. And I am fully aware of the fact and the reasons why Bernie Sanders is appealing.
Ultimately, Sanders’ track record on his stated values is second to no other candidate. The question is whether he can actually make things happen. Raising taxes on the wealthy, raising minimum wage, free public college and single-payer healthcare systems would all require significant cooperation from what will likely be a Republican Congress, and Congress has rarely shown a willingness to cooperate with anyone.
well, roundup 11 million illegals is unrealistic, I would agree. But build that wall and using military to secure the border is really not that hard to do.
Neither party wanted to fix the border problem, Trump would do it. Trump will secure the border, and do something very kind for the veterans. Two main reasons why I would vote for Trump.
Are you sure about that? When I hear some concrete plans about HOW he will do it (specifically) and HOW he will pay for it (specifically) - then I'll listen. And his 'being very kind to the veterans' is about as vague as one can get but that IS how he speaks.
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Sanders has a track record of supporting the lower and middle classes, supporting things like paternity leave, reducing student debt, raising minimum wage and mandatory vacation and sick leave.
but none of the above really concerns me, I know this is incredibly and sickly selfish for me to say, but hopefully no one attacks me for being honest here.
However, like I posted earlier. I do believe strong middle class makes a strong America. And I am fully aware of the fact and the reasons why Bernie Sanders is appealing.
Ultimately, Sanders’ track record on his stated values is second to no other candidate. The question is whether he can actually make things happen. Raising taxes on the wealthy, raising minimum wage, free public college and single-payer healthcare systems would all require significant cooperation from what will likely be a Republican Congress, and Congress has rarely shown a willingness to cooperate with anyone.
MR. Trump is going to have the very same problem as he advocates for raising taxes on the wealthy and could very well be leading us down the path of single payer - which he was once a great advocate for.
Be careful what you wish for. Trump might make some Democrats very happy. Of course, he would have to quit demonizing others and I doubt that will happen.
His plan about raising taxes on corporations that leave the country - will have to have Congress approval as well.
So far, I'm hearing empty promises but perhaps he will have some concrete facts tonight.
That’s the mistake most people make. They have paid into medicare all their lives and think they will get free healthcare when they retire. They will eventually realize that medicare pays a fraction of what is needed and denies more claims than private health insurance. After paying a lifetime into medicare now they have buy ANOHER insurance policy. So no, the so called medicare for all is not the answer.
Could you back ^ up with something factual, please.
Medicare was created by government because private insurers would not insure the risks of the elderly back when, a diagnosis of a Cancer or heart disease tended to be a death sentence.
Most people will receive lifetime benefits that greatly exceed their contributions.
You do not understand the concept of "Stump Speeches"..... you see when a candidate is going around the country they have to plan a single stump speech to introduce themselves to a new crowd/set of voters who might be tuning in. They can't go changing their speech in every location as they would run out of stuff to say and get their messaged muddled.
This is common sense 101.... 30 years experience voting and you don't understand this? pfffftttttttt
Perhaps because most primary candidates do not get prime time media coverage anywhere near the extent Trump does.
Some watch because they support him and some watch because they want to hear the next outrageous thing.
It's fascinating that Dr Carson has soared in the polls, despite a very different tone and substantially less media coverage of his stump.
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