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I don't care where the rock Obama originally crawled out from under is located. Maybe you should send your link to Hillary, the original birther. I hear she has her own server.
True to birther form, you think if you repeat a lie often enough it becomes the truth. Such is the mind of a birther.
True to birther form, you think if you repeat a lie often enough it becomes the truth. Such is the mind of a birther.
Except I'm not a birther, as I just told you, again. No matter how many times you repeat the lie, it still isn't true. Hillary and you have a lot in common.
I agree. And you agree that applies to the president as well, right?
To me, the President's situation is totally different. I am not a birther, I think he was born in Hawaii or if he wasn't it really makes no difference now, but the question about Cruz is not where he was born but does his parents citizenship affect his being legally elegible to run for President. The question about Obama was related to where he actually was born.
Except I'm not a birther, as I just told you, again. No matter how many times you repeat the lie, it still isn't true. Hillary and you have a lot in common.
LOL. I get a kick out of people who will argue birther positions until the cows come home and then, when they have finished, they will say, "But I'm not a birther." If it walks like a duck...
contrary to popular belief US military bases are not "US soil". john mccain was born outside the US at a time (1936) that congress specifically considered canal zone births "US nationals" and not "US citizens". 2008 congress, in a unanimous and undebated decision, stated that mccain was eligible for POTUS thru the fact that he obtained citizenship at birth thru his parents.
yes i understand all that, but i also understand that federal law allows for children of US citizens to be born outside the country, and still be US citizens.
US citizens, yes. Being born a US citizen is not necessarily the same as being a natural born citizen. That's why the Constitutional Convention changed the requirement for POTUS from "born a citizen" to "natural born citizen."
And it's not hard to understand why given the events that precipitated the War of 1812 (impressment of dual national US citizens into service for a foreign military), and the fact that to this very day the US State Dept warns: "dual nationals owe allegiance to both the United States and the foreign country. They are required to obey the laws of both countries. Either country has the right to enforce its laws"
The Founding Fathers were smart enough to recognize that having a POTUS and Commander in Chief that owes allegiance to a foreign country and has to obey the laws of a foreign country was a very bad idea. Why aren't you?
so why all the question on Obama?? who was born in Hawaii but to an American mom -- what is good for one not good for another?
Obama: born in the US to a US citizenship mother.
Cruz: born in a foreign country to a US citizenship mother.
Two different things.
(For the record, I have no doubts about Cruz's eligibility but I'd like to see it confirmed in a court case just to silence the naysayers.)
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