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Old 04-05-2016, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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But many people didnt know they would vote for a Democrat by October last year. Huge numbers had never heard about Bernie then. You would think that the party would welcome new people into the party. This is the earliest registration deadline by far and I dont see why they couldnt have the March deadline for all registered voters.
You are talking about state law, not party rules so it's not about the Democratic party not welcoming new members. People can't switch to the Republican party either.

 
Old 04-05-2016, 02:08 PM
 
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But many people didnt know they would vote for a Democrat by October last year. Huge numbers had never heard about Bernie then. You would think that the party would welcome new people into the party. This is the earliest registration deadline by far and I dont see why they couldnt have the March deadline for all registered voters.
Rules are rules
Don't voters have responsibilities to know about registration deadlines?
But you have no problem with the rules allowing Bernie flipping Hillary's delegates which were elected by voters in Nevada?
Give me a break.
 
Old 04-05-2016, 02:18 PM
 
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SurveyUSA poll, taken 3/30-04/03, of likely California primary voters shows Clinton 53, Sanders 39.

SurveyUSA Election Poll #22817
Interesting tidbit from the survey:
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Registered voters from all parties were asked, regardless for whom they may vote, which candidate for President would they want sitting in the Oval Office if there were a major terrorist attack on the United States today: 37% say Clinton, 21% say Sanders, 15% say Trump, 9% say Cruz, 5% say Kasich.
 
Old 04-05-2016, 02:19 PM
 
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You are talking about state law, not party rules so it's not about the Democratic party not welcoming new members. People can't switch to the Republican party either.
And the biggest party has no influence on the state law? No other state had anywhere close to this extremely long deadline before the primary.
 
Old 04-05-2016, 02:20 PM
 
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Rules are rules
Don't voters have responsibilities to know about registration deadlines?
"Voter responsibility" is what the GOP uses as argument as well to discourage voter turnout. They know they cant win when voter turnout is high.
 
Old 04-05-2016, 03:17 PM
 
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What contests were those? Lots of states had a high turnout including those with closed primaries. Sanders has yet to win a closed primary.
In states like Texas, Mississippi and Tennessee, voter turnout was down 50% from 2008 and Clinton won those states against Sanders in landslides. When states have had record breaking turnouts, Sanders has won. Democrats Abroad was a closed primary by the way, and Sanders won by 40 points. There have only been 3 other closed primaries.

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Old 04-05-2016, 03:37 PM
 
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In states like Texas, Mississippi and Tennessee, voter turnout was down 50% from 2008 and Clinton those states over Sanders in landslides. When states have had record breaking turnouts, Sanders has won. Democrats Abroad was a closed primary by the way, and Sanders won by 40 points. There have only been 3 other closed primaries.
In Florida, voter turnout was higher than in both 2008 and 2012, and Clinton won by a landslide there.
 
Old 04-05-2016, 04:11 PM
 
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In Florida, voter turnout was higher than in both 2008 and 2012, and Clinton won by a landslide there.
Turnout was low in Florida. You cant compare it with the primary in 2008 in Florida.

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The DNC Rules and Bylaws Committee voted on August 25, 2007 that Florida was in violation of its rules and gave the state 30 days' notice to change the date of its primary.[1] As Florida did not respond, the Committee stripped Florida of its delegates to the Democratic National Convention in Denver.[5] On August 31, officials from the four approved early-voting states asked all the candidates to pledge not to campaign or participate in Florida, and all the major candidates signed the pledge.[1] Despite the pledge, the major candidates remained on the ballot, as Florida rules do not allow candidates to remove their names without withdrawing completely from the general election.[6]

In October 2007, Democrats from Florida's congressional delegation filed a federal lawsuit against the DNC to force the recognition of its delegates; however, the suit was unsuccessful.[1][5]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florid..._primary,_2008
 
Old 04-05-2016, 04:46 PM
 
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In states like Texas, Mississippi and Tennessee, voter turnout was down 50% from 2008 and Clinton won those states against Sanders in landslides. When states have had record breaking turnouts, Sanders has won. Democrats Abroad was a closed primary by the way, and Sanders won by 40 points. There have only been 3 other closed primaries.
Arizona already has higher turnout than 2008 and Hillary won by 15%
And the alleged voter suppression, if true which I don't comment on, would not be able to overcome that amount anyways since it affects both Clinton and sanders supporters
 
Old 04-05-2016, 04:54 PM
 
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Turnout was low in Florida.
No it was not. The 2016 primary had a 46% turnout.

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You cant compare it with the primary in 2008 in Florida.
What you quoted is irrelevant. All of the Democratic candidates' names were on the ballot, and people voted regardless.
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