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Old 02-02-2016, 05:00 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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She is winning, but Sanders in the race will cause her to spend much of her money fighting him, rather than concentrating on beating the GOP.
meh.
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Old 02-02-2016, 05:00 PM
 
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Can a candidate win the popular vote in a primary, but not get the nomination because the delegates and super delegates don't vote for them?
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Old 02-02-2016, 05:07 PM
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Can a candidate win the popular vote in a primary, but not get the nomination because the delegates and super delegates don't vote for them?
yes but every state that isnt delegate take all would have to fall the same way Iowa did.
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Old 02-02-2016, 05:12 PM
 
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I'm betting that Clinton will won the DNC nomination, no matter what happens. On the RNC side, it increasingly looks like Rubio (the establishment pick) will win the nomination. As for VP, I have no idea who the VP could be for Clinton, but it'll most likely be somebody like Martin O'Malley or Jim Webb or a Jim Webb type. Basically a milquetoast Democrat.

For the Republicans, there's only 2 establishment picks left on there, so either Rubio wins and Jeb! becomes VP, or Jeb! wins and Rubio is VP. Quite frankly I have no idea how Jeb! will win the presidential vote since Rubio is the establishment favorite, but it seems like Bush was the RNC backup, and highly possible VP.

Out of the entire GOP field, Rubio is the only competitive candidate against Clinton per RCP
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Old 02-02-2016, 05:14 PM
 
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All the bookmakers that I've seen now have Marco "I'm not a scientist, man." Rubio as the strong favorite to be the Party of Stupid nominee...
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Old 02-02-2016, 05:20 PM
 
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I'm betting that Clinton will won the DNC nomination, no matter what happens. On the RNC side, it increasingly looks like Rubio (the establishment pick) will win the nomination.
what?
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Old 02-02-2016, 05:25 PM
 
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Can a candidate win the popular vote in a primary, but not get the nomination because the delegates and super delegates don't vote for them?
There is no nationwide primary popular vote, nor is there any way to calculate one.

A candidate needs 2383 delegate votes to win the Democratic nomination. If they reach that threshold, they get the nomination even if they don't get a single super delegate vote.
It is possible for a candidate to arrive with a plurality of delegate votes and then lose because the super delegates vote for a candidate with fewer pledged delegates. That's highly unlikely to happen this year in the Democratic party.

Same principle applies to Republicans, different number of votes needed of course, and if it's a 3-person race going into the convention with the votes almost evenly split, then IMO it's highly likely the party leader votes will go to the establishment candidate, regardless of who's on top.
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Old 02-02-2016, 05:26 PM
 
Location: NJ
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They know what's good for us, right?
'we have to pass it to fuind out what is in it"


yes 'the dems' have our best interest at heart. they flip a coin to pick a president candidate and pass legislation without reading or understanding it!


the dems promise to skyrocket our energy costs and raise our taxes demonstrating creative accounting is their forte and people are fine with paying more tax....HRC needs a win, no problem, let's flip a coin...a coin with two tails.


HRC needs to do fractions out to three palces to embrace her "WIN".
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Old 02-02-2016, 05:30 PM
 
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Can a candidate win the popular vote in a primary, but not get the nomination because the delegates and super delegates don't vote for them?
It is certainly possible. However it is more interesting to note that 2004 Howard Dean had most of the Super Delegates sowed up but still lost to Kerry. Go figure.
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Old 02-02-2016, 05:37 PM
 
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I'm betting that Clinton will won the DNC nomination, no matter what happens. On the RNC side, it increasingly looks like Rubio (the establishment pick) will win the nomination. As for VP, I have no idea who the VP could be for Clinton, but it'll most likely be somebody like Martin O'Malley or Jim Webb or a Jim Webb type. Basically a milquetoast Democrat.

For the Republicans, there's only 2 establishment picks left on there, so either Rubio wins and Jeb! becomes VP, or Jeb! wins and Rubio is VP. Quite frankly I have no idea how Jeb! will win the presidential vote since Rubio is the establishment favorite, but it seems like Bush was the RNC backup, and highly possible VP.

Out of the entire GOP field, Rubio is the only competitive candidate against Clinton per RCP
Why would Rubio pick Jeb as VP? Jeb is pretty much toxic within the Republican Party. If he REALLY wanted to make an impact, he would act as a poison pill and endorse Trump.
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