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Old 02-02-2016, 06:10 PM
 
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Update: Hillary gets another 2 delegates and stands at 411, while the others remain unchanged.
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Old 02-02-2016, 06:40 PM
 
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Why would Rubio pick Jeb as VP? Jeb is pretty much toxic within the Republican Party. If he REALLY wanted to make an impact, he would act as a poison pill and endorse Trump.
Jeb is the only other establishment candidate in that lineup.
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Old 02-02-2016, 06:42 PM
 
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what?
Just because you want Trump to win, doesn't mean he will.
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Old 02-02-2016, 06:48 PM
 
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Just because you want Trump to win, doesn't mean he will.
hahaha, i'm just trying to figure out what evidence you have to show that its increasingly looking like it'll be Rubio, and not Cruz.. It has nothing to do with Trump..
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Old 02-02-2016, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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'we have to pass it to fuind out what is in it"


yes 'the dems' have our best interest at heart. they flip a coin to pick a president candidate and pass legislation without reading or understanding it!


the dems promise to skyrocket our energy costs and raise our taxes demonstrating creative accounting is their forte and people are fine with paying more tax....HRC needs a win, no problem, let's flip a coin...a coin with two tails.


HRC needs to do fractions out to three palces to embrace her "WIN".
I'm sure this is falling on deaf ears but that's not what Nancy Pelosi said. She said that we have to pass it so "you" the American public can find out what's in it. She was saying that the American people didn't realize the benefits that were in the ACA and wouldn't really see how it impacted them until it was in effect. And despite the problems, there are some huge benefits that help people such as pre-existing conditions not being excluded, and young adults being able to stay on their parents' plans until age 26.

As for the coin flip, it clearly doesn't work the way you think it does. It affects a very minor issue regarding the number of people going to a county level convention, not the awarding of delegates to the candidates.

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Jeb is the only other establishment candidate in that lineup.
Christie and Kasich are also considered establishment candidates.
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Old 02-02-2016, 07:20 PM
 
Location: north central Ohio
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the Democratic Party grants 388 "superdelegates"
who are not beholden or constituted by any primary or caucus.
essentially, these 388 superdelegates are used to override the
votes of the people and impose a top-down result from party brass.
nobody will know whom these 388 superdelegates will vote for until
the convention, however it is suspected that they have been bought
by the Clinton campaign.
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That's why I always say that Presidents are "selected", not "elected".

We are given 2 choices. But those choices are made by other people.

Soros has donated $8 million for Hillary.

Yet people still vote.....why?
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Old 02-03-2016, 06:38 AM
 
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There is no nationwide primary popular vote, nor is there any way to calculate one.

A candidate needs 2383 delegate votes to win the Democratic nomination. If they reach that threshold, they get the nomination even if they don't get a single super delegate vote.
It is possible for a candidate to arrive with a plurality of delegate votes and then lose because the super delegates vote for a candidate with fewer pledged delegates. That's highly unlikely to happen this year in the Democratic party.

Same principle applies to Republicans, different number of votes needed of course, and if it's a 3-person race going into the convention with the votes almost evenly split, then IMO it's highly likely the party leader votes will go to the establishment candidate, regardless of who's on top.
There is so much confusion in how the delegating, caucusing, and super delegating actually works, the primaries feel rife with rigging. And then there's the electoral college for the national voting. Unless I'm mistaken, we already saw an instance where the popular vote was dismissed by the electoral college vote (Gore/Bush).
Why can't we reform/simplify our voting system to just each person has one vote that actually counts and is not sifted through a corrupt and rigged election system???
I am becoming so angry and cynical at our election process,
I may not vote for the first time in this election.
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Old 02-03-2016, 07:27 AM
 
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There is so much confusion in how the delegating, caucusing, and super delegating actually works, the primaries feel rife with rigging. And then there's the electoral college for the national voting. Unless I'm mistaken, we already saw an instance where the popular vote was dismissed by the electoral college vote (Gore/Bush).
Why can't we reform/simplify our voting system to just each person has one vote that actually counts and is not sifted through a corrupt and rigged election system???
I am becoming so angry and cynical at our election process,
I may not vote for the first time in this election.
Well if it was one person per vote Hillary would likely have been president in 2008 since she won many big states contests and Florida and Michigan wouldn't have been ruled out.
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Old 02-03-2016, 10:47 AM
 
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Well if it was one person per vote Hillary would likely have been president in 2008 since she won many big states contests and Florida and Michigan wouldn't have been ruled out.
But I thought that's what democracy insures --- the majority wins.
If more americans voted for her, then she should win.

Small farm communities not having enough votes or power -- raise your prices or go on strike until you get some attention.
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Old 02-03-2016, 03:02 PM
 
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So how many delegates does Bernie have with the 21 in Iowa?
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