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Old 02-03-2016, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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So how many delegates does Bernie have with the 21 in Iowa?
29 in total, to Hillary's 385. Out of 2382 needed to win the nomination.
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Old 02-03-2016, 04:59 PM
 
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29 in total, to Hillary's 385. Out of 2382 needed to win the nomination.
Superdelegates are uncommitted. Just because they say they support a candidate means nothing until they actually vote at the convention. Please stop lying to people. At this time pledged delegates are Clinton 22, Sanders 21, and one or the other will get 1 more at the State convention from O'Malley who has suspended.
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Old 02-03-2016, 05:00 PM
 
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2016 Election Center - Presidential Primaries and Caucuses

Looks like Hillary has a huge lead in delegates right now.
Yep. DNC has rigged election for Hillary to win no matter how the people vote.

Hillary Clinton does not have the support of the electorate. She can't win an election by honest & fair means. Iowa proves this.
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Old 02-03-2016, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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2016 Election Center - Presidential Primaries and Caucuses

Looks like Hillary has a huge lead in delegates right now.
And such begins the end of the Democratic Party as it's known today. The enslavers will blow the will of the enslaved out of the water by using allocating support to their chosen not the democratic voters. It's funny to watch the Dems a GOP that have destroyed the country and made themselves filthy rich openly manipulate the system to circumvent the will of the voters. It's like watching to initial volley of shots to our second civil war.
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Old 02-03-2016, 10:46 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Come summer, Clinton will easily have enough committed delegates that the superdelegate votes won't matter.

The Republicans have 168 party leadership delegates that are only bound for the 1st vote. When it goes to a 2nd vote (inevitable this year), they'll go to establishment candidate Rubio and in a 3-way race will put him in 1st place.

That's politics, folks. If enough people don't like it, they can write in candidates or start their own party.
Or throw out their party leadership and re-write their rules. The Republicans are traditionally better at that one than the Democrats.
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Old 02-04-2016, 12:28 AM
 
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There is so much confusion in how the delegating, caucusing, and super delegating actually works, the primaries feel rife with rigging. And then there's the electoral college for the national voting. Unless I'm mistaken, we already saw an instance where the popular vote was dismissed by the electoral college vote (Gore/Bush).
Why can't we reform/simplify our voting system to just each person has one vote that actually counts and is not sifted through a corrupt and rigged election system???
I am becoming so angry and cynical at our election process,
I may not vote for the first time in this election.
I feel your pain! But please keep in mind that the individual states' primary processes and the national election (electoral college) are two different things.

If you truly want reform, you need to distinguish between the two. Primary elections are a state matter, therefore you need to address them on the state level, keeping in mind that you as a voter have options: you can simply go with independent or 3rd party candidates. If enough people do so in a state, that state's primary process will be crippled.
The electoral college is a whole 'nother matter.

In other words, pick your battle.
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Old 02-04-2016, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Denver CO
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Oh, please. The system is no different now than it's been for decades.

And yes, Hillary has those delegates. Yes, people can change their minds but these are people who have publicly declared their support for her and in the majority of cases, are actively out there working for her, speaking as her surrogate, and trying to get others to support her. They will vote publicly at the convention. You really think that hundreds of people are staking their reputations by making this public stand of support only to call psyche! at the convention and vote for Bernie?
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Old 02-04-2016, 08:44 AM
 
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Amazing that Hillary was given Iowa by her winning 6 out of 6 coin tosses. Wonder if those were two headed coins.


Lucky? Hillary Clinton Wins All 6 Coin Tosses In Iowa, Taking Narrow Delegate Lead - Breitbart
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Old 02-04-2016, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Denver CO
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Amazing that Hillary was given Iowa by her winning 6 out of 6 coin tosses. Wonder if those were two headed coins.


Lucky? Hillary Clinton Wins All 6 Coin Tosses In Iowa, Taking Narrow Delegate Lead - Breitbart
Bzzzt! Try again.

Iowa Democratic Party says Bernie Sanders won 6 of 7 delegate coin tosses

Coin-Toss Fact Check: No, Coin Flips Did Not Win Iowa For Hillary Clinton : NPR

No, Hillary Clinton did not win Iowa because of a coin flip - CNNPolitics.com


Was the Iowa Caucus Decided by Coin Flips? - The Atlantic
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Old 02-04-2016, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Keosauqua, Iowa
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Amazing that Hillary was given Iowa by her winning 6 out of 6 coin tosses. Wonder if those were two headed coins.


Lucky? Hillary Clinton Wins All 6 Coin Tosses In Iowa, Taking Narrow Delegate Lead - Breitbart
This story was determined to be false about five minutes after it broke.
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