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Old 02-28-2016, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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No, because they weren't endorsed by the KKK.
well,

I am fully aware of the fact that America’s dying white supremacist movement is seizing on Donald Trump’s appeal. Let's face it, they are a desperate and extreme group of people. Many are really not that bright.

The fact is that Trump does not endorse white supremacist groups, and his campaign has fired two staffers for posting racially offensive material on social media.

So it is not fair to put Trump on the spot with that question.
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Old 02-28-2016, 01:19 PM
 
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well,

I am fully aware of the fact that America’s dying white supremacist movement is seizing on Donald Trump’s appeal. Let's face it, they are a desperate and extreme group of people. Many are really not that bright.

The fact is that Trump does not endorse white supremacist groups, and his campaign has fired two staffers for posting racially offensive material on social media.

So it is not fair to put Trump on the spot with that question.
Source? I found a source for one, who was later rehired (Nunberg).
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Old 02-28-2016, 01:22 PM
 
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well,

I am fully aware of the fact that America’s dying white supremacist movement is seizing on Donald Trump’s appeal. Let's face it, they are a desperate and extreme group of people. Many are really not that bright.

The fact is that Trump does not endorse white supremacist groups, and his campaign has fired two staffers for posting racially offensive material on social media.

So it is not fair to put Trump on the spot with that question.
All he has to do is to repudiate the support of white supremacists. What's so difficult about that, unless he wants their sordid votes on Super Tuesday in the SEC Primary?
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Old 02-28-2016, 01:22 PM
 
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Not surprising considering Trump has a book of Hitler speeches next to his bedside he reads nightly and he has been caught numerous times re-tweeting white supremacists on his Twitter. Of course he plays dumb when he gets called out on it like he's playing dumb here. Of course he knows who David Duke is and of course he knows who the KKK are, and the fact he refuses to denounce either is appalling, even for someone as stupid and ignorant as Trump. Not only is he a pathetic fraud, he's a racist and a sexist, he's finished. Even if he were to win enough delegates, the GOP will block his nomination at the convention with Rule 40 or another method they have in their back pockets. Or as a last resort, they will find a good candidate to run 3rd party or Independent and take votes from Trump so Hillary wins. The GOP has enough problem with women and minority voters to have a blatant racist and sexist win the GOP nomination. This clown is finished and will be back to his garbage reality shows.
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Old 02-28-2016, 01:23 PM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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The thing people are forgetting here is that while it's true that the KKK is a shadow of what it once was, the fact is that White nationalist bigotry has a substantial following within American politics (especially within the conservative movement) and this makes up quite a but of Trump's base of support.

This is why the #NeverTrump hashtag is exploding on Twitter. Sensible conservatives are gearing up to take back their party and stop Trump from hijacking our movement.
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Old 02-28-2016, 01:29 PM
 
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The thing people are forgetting here is that while it's true that the KKK is a shadow of what it once was, the fact is that White nationalist bigotry has a substantial following within American politics (especially within the conservative movement) and this makes up quite a but of Trump's base of support.

This is why the #NeverTrump hashtag is exploding on Twitter. Sensible conservatives are gearing up to take back their party and stop Trump from hijacking our movement.
Yep.

The Neo-Confederates, White Natonalists and white identity voters in general, far exceed the actual number of KKK members and are part of Donald's base. That's why he won't denounce them. He's using them to give him an edge in multi-candidate primaries. The problem for the GOP is that if he is actually nominated, he has to carry that racist label into the general election, where it becomes a huge liability. The only voters he wouldn't offend would be the ones who would never vote for a Democrat anyway.
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Old 02-28-2016, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Source? I found a source for one, who was later rehired (Nunberg).
On Sunday, Donald Trump’s campaign fired a political aide with an extensive history of racist Facebook posts, Bloomberg’s Mark Halperin and Ali Elkin report.

Donald Trump aide fired over over-the-top racist Facebook posts - Salon.com

I can be pretty biased because I don't care much about "race". To me, white supremacists endorsement does not hurt his chance of winning my vote because I have different priorities.

That Palin endorsement turned me off big time, but I got over it.
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Old 02-28-2016, 01:34 PM
 
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Not surprising considering Trump has a book of Hitler speeches next to his bedside he reads nightly
This was an allegation that his ex-wife made in 1990. And when asked about it Trump said that a Jewish friend had given him a copy of Mein Kampf.

Look. I can't stand the guy. But can we just stick to the facts, please?
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Old 02-28-2016, 01:38 PM
 
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On Sunday, Donald Trump’s campaign fired a political aide with an extensive history of racist Facebook posts, Bloomberg’s Mark Halperin and Ali Elkin report.

Donald Trump aide fired over over-the-top racist Facebook posts - Salon.com

I can be pretty biased because I don't care much about "race". To me, white supremacists endorsement does not hurt his chance of winning my vote because I have different priorities.

That Palin endorsement turned me off big time, but I got over it.
As I said, I found a source for Nunberg. He was later rehired, by the way.

You said there were two that were fired.
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Old 02-28-2016, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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This was an allegation that his ex-wife made in 1990.

Look. I can't stand the guy. But can we just stick to the facts, please?
Fact: Trump admits it.

Donald and Ivana Trump's Divorce: The Full Story | Vanity Fair

“Did your cousin John give you the Hitler speeches?” I asked Trump.

Trump hesitated. “Who told you that?”

“I don’t remember,” I said.

“Actually, it was my friend Marty Davis from Paramount who gave me a copy of Mein Kampf, and he’s a Jew.” (“I did give him a book about Hitler,” Marty Davis said. “But it was My New Order, Hitler’s speeches, not Mein Kampf. I thought he would find it interesting. I am his friend, but I’m not Jewish.”)
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