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Old 03-17-2016, 06:55 AM
 
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It's weird how the more effort the establishment puts into stopping Trump, the more popular he becomes. Right? You'd think they'd back down but they don't. I don't understand it.
As someone who is not a Trump supporter, I have to agree that it is rather unusual for a party to go to this length to avoid the leading candidate from winning the nomination. But I can certainly understand why they might . . . . aside from the Big Tent thing, I believe they are genuinely concerned about the direction of this country if Mr. Trump is elected (we'll just have to agree to disagree on that one for now).

Mick
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Old 03-17-2016, 07:04 AM
 
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How can Cruz say he has a path to the nomination? He keeps repeating this like he & Trump are on equal footing.

He needs 79% of remaining delegates. He will have to win 4 out of every 5 delegates. I don't see it happening. Not even close.
Cruz is a brilliant man (he is, just ask him), so he clearly knows that he can't win 79% of the remaining delegates, especially in light of the states that remain. He knows it would take a miracle, like a lightening strike hitting Mr. Trump.

However, he is saying that to make sure his supporters don't stop voting for him. He needs as much delegates as possible, even though he won't win more delegates than Mr. Trump. Why? To give himself more credibility should it become a contested convention. For both Kasich and Cruz, their only alleged path is through a contested convention . . . they just can't realistically catch up. If he is a convincing #2, then he would have an edge over Kasich, Romney, Ryan and the rest. But Cruz can't admit that, particularly since he has already said on record that a contested convention is a very bad thing . . . so he will pretend that he is trying to win delegates to win in the primaries.

It's all moot if Mr. Trump can secure a majority of the pledged delegates. Bye bye Ted in that case. Couldn't have happened to a nicer man.

Mick
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Old 03-17-2016, 07:09 AM
 
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As someone who is not a Trump supporter, I have to agree that it is rather unusual for a party to go to this length to avoid the leading candidate from winning the nomination. But I can certainly understand why they might . . . . aside from the Big Tent thing, I believe they are genuinely concerned about the direction of this country if Mr. Trump is elected (we'll just have to agree to disagree on that one for now).

Mick
If Trump takes AZ next week, I'm guessing that Cruz is done for. Party is starting to come to its senses about Trump as they are making quiet moves to accept him.

Now that Obama has put forth a Supreme Ct. nominee, it's quick reminder of who their real enemy is.
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Old 03-17-2016, 07:11 AM
 
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It's all moot if Mr. Trump can secure a majority of the pledged delegates. Bye bye Ted in that case. Couldn't have happened to a nicer man.

Mick
As I point out in this topic, this is almost a certainty now.

Trump only needs 547 delegates out of the 1044 delegates left to win nomination.
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Old 03-17-2016, 07:16 AM
 
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How can Cruz say he has a path to the nomination? He keeps repeating this like he & Trump are on equal footing.

He needs 79% of remaining delegates. He will have to win 4 out of every 5 delegates. I don't see it happening. Not even close.
Get with it: as with Kasich, what do you expect him to say or do? If he doesn't tell his supporters he can win, it is over for him. Most of us realize we are most likely heading for a brokers or contested convention. He wants to stay in the race.
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Old 03-17-2016, 07:18 AM
 
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.....Most of us realize we are most likely heading for a brokers or contested convention. He wants to stay in the race.
No reason to believe this. Trump has an easy path to score the remaining 547 or so delegates out of over 1000 left to win majority needed.
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Old 03-17-2016, 02:03 PM
 
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Cruz is a brilliant man (he is, just ask him), so he clearly knows that he can't win 79% of the remaining delegates, especially in light of the states that remain. He knows it would take a miracle, like a lightening strike hitting Mr. Trump.
Sure he can and no it wouldn't. All he has to do is win 55%-45%which is completely doable, especially with him picking up Rubio voters and 16 of the last 20 primaries/caucuses being closed, where Trump performs the worst.
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Old 03-17-2016, 02:06 PM
 
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Sure he can and no it wouldn't. All he has to do is win 55%-45%which is completely doable, especially with him picking up Rubio voters and 16 of the last 20 primaries/caucuses being closed, where Trump performs the worst.
Nope. It's impossible. This is why.

Trump only needs 547 delegates out of the 1044 delegates left to win nomination.
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Old 03-17-2016, 02:10 PM
 
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You are just speculating and hoping Trump wins those states, you have no idea. Things could change a lot and soon. Rumors of a Cruz/Kasich ticket and other scenarios which could change everything.
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Old 03-17-2016, 02:17 PM
 
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WaldoK,

What about the votes in Missouri? Is that still up in the air? I believe MO has 52 delegates or so, right?

Thanks
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