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Old 10-11-2016, 09:50 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Originally Posted by Fox Terrier View Post
I also suspect he has financial ties with Russia. THAT is what's important to me. I really don't give a damn how rich he is.
You were TOLD to suspect "he has financial ties with Russia". You were also TOLD Romney hadn't paid taxes.

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Trump now says he will not release tax returns..
Good. I'm not going to release mine, either.

If he has not paid taxes, then probably something is wrong with the tax policy. And he didn't write tax law.
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Old 10-11-2016, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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I also suspect he has financial ties with Russia. THAT is what's important to me. I really don't give a damn how rich he is.
It looks like he might have a cozier relationship with Russia than we thought, the only question is, did the Russians give him this directly or does he follow Sputnik news?

"The story on Sputnik has since been taken down. It originated from a slew of 2,000 Clinton emails released by Wikileaks on October 7. One titled "The Truth..." sent by Blumenthal last year to "undisclosed-recipients" copies wholesale an article by Newsweek journalist Kurt Eichenwald about Benghazi.

The Sputnik article falsely quotes Blumenthal, stating he wrote in the email that the attack was "almost certainly preventable" and that Clinton "failed to protect U.S. personnel at an American consulate in Libya." These were, rather, the words of Eichenwald. The Newsweek brand is owned by IBTimes UK parent company IBT Media.

In a speech in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania, Monday, Trump quoted from what appears to be the Sputnik article. "This just came out a little while ago," he said of the story, stating "this is Sidney Blumenthal" before beginning to quote. Trump did not cite the source of the article in his speech before tossing the paper he read from the podium"

Donald Trump quotes Russian misinformation and mistakenly cites Hillary Clinton adviser
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Old 10-11-2016, 10:00 AM
 
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You were TOLD to suspect "he has financial ties with Russia".
Yes, we were told by Trump's son. Or is his son in the tank for Hillary, too?
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Old 10-11-2016, 10:03 AM
 
Location: S.E. US
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That's the problem with domestic media also. People quote liberal media which is often misleading and deceptive full of omissions and errors.

With all that's out there, it's easy to pick up a wrong quote. I see it here from posters quite a bit.
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Old 10-11-2016, 10:11 AM
 
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I'm an independent, I vote for the person not the tribe. Have been for decades. People act as if elections are the Mets vs the Yankees. I have voted for both dems and repubs over the year.

Let's stick to reality - the majority of lowest income states are REPUBLICAN. The majority of the highest income states are DEMOCRAT.

Income is usually based on intelligence, education, drive, and making stuff happen. Like starting a business.

How many of you Trump voters fall into the top 3% of wealthy Americans? I'm using the term 'you' in general trump voters. Not just the OP.

If you are so dang smart like you spew all over the board, why do you continue to vote against your own best interest?

It's a violation of your basic need to survive. And yet you do it year after year? I began to notice this after Reagan was in office. I don't get it.

Romney lost for many reasons but I'd bet one of them is his remark about the bottom 47%. I think it showed the population above that 47% what he really was about. (Oh and his hidden bank accounts in the Cayman Islands didn't help either.) And yet that 47% was probably a good part of his voting population.

Can someone explain to the rest of us why vote against your own best interest?
I see this all the time in my home state of Texas. There are hundred of thousands of teachers for example who continue to vote into office politicians who scrimp on funding public schools in favor of big business, who fail to fully fund the state's portion of the teachers' retirement and insurance funds (trying to force it to merge its huge investment fund w/the state's--to the teachers disadvantage)...
Our current and former attorneys general have wasted millions --MILLIONS-- of tax monies over the past 8 yrs fruitlessly suing the federal government to promote THEIR political agendas with no positive outcome to the citizens of the state.

People are just irrational and base these choices on religious/moral value judgements tied to conservative religious values... I refuse to give them any claim to "Christian" values since Jesus would never have held the hate in his heart that so many of these people do...
All their policies are based in a very narrow minded view of religion vs science and rational thought...

I am a retired teacher and while it would be easy to blame education in general for this refusal to see facts as facts I think it comes from a more familial basis since I dealt with so many students and parents who refused to take responsibility for their/their child's problems...from being tardy to class, to being caught cheating, to refusing to follow the dress code or use of phones in class...it was always someone else's fault...

And when you never accept responsibility (as the Donald shows) you can never admit a mistake.

Thus their choices for Republicans who promise to improve their lives and then refuse to tax big business effectively, who block tax policies to stop loopholes, who go into a trillion $$ war because a small special interest group has a secret agenda it lies to implement, who waste the past 8yrs of government time and money because the GOP doesn't want a a Democratic (black) President to claim any positive outcomes or programs, then you didn't do anything wrong...

They can't admit the economy is better, that RE has made a strong comeback, that a national health plan has made people's lives better even if it isn't perfect, that unchecked climate change will destroy our world--

Other forces MUST be at work--secret conspiracies of powerful forces aiming to bring you down...
Vs people who are taking advantage of your own fears and ignorance and desire to believe you made the right political, religious choice...
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Old 10-11-2016, 10:14 AM
 
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I see this all the time in my home state of Texas. There are hundred of thousands of teachers for example who continue to vote into office politicians who scrimp on funding public schools in favor of big business, who fail to fully fund the state's portion of the teachers' retirement and insurance funds (trying to force it to merge its huge investment fund w/the state's--to the teachers disadvantage)...
Our current and former attorneys general have wasted millions --MILLIONS-- of tax monies over the past 8 yrs fruitlessly suing the federal government to promote THEIR political agendas with no positive outcome to the citizens of the state.

People are just irrational and base these choices on religious/moral value judgements tied to conservative religious values... I refuse to give them any claim to "Christian" values since Jesus would never have held the hate in his heart that so many of these people do...
All their policies are based in a very narrow minded view of religion vs science and rational thought...

I am a retired teacher and while it would be easy to blame education in general for this refusal to see facts as facts I think it comes from a more familial basis since I dealt with so many students and parents who refused to take responsibility for their/their child's problems...from being tardy to class, to being caught cheating, to refusing to follow the dress code or use of phones in class...it was always someone else's fault...

And when you never accept responsibility (as the Donald shows) you can never admit a mistake.

Thus their choices for Republicans who promise to improve their lives and then refuse to tax big business effectively, who block tax policies to stop loopholes, who go into a trillion $$ war because a small special interest group has a secret agenda it lies to implement, who waste the past 8yrs of government time and money because the GOP doesn't want a a Democratic (black) President to claim any positive outcomes or programs, then you didn't do anything wrong...

They can't admit the economy is better, that RE has made a strong comeback, that a national health plan has made people's lives better even if it isn't perfect, that unchecked climate change will destroy our world--

Other forces MUST be at work--secret conspiracies of powerful forces aiming to bring you down...
Vs people who are taking advantage of your own fears and ignorance and desire to believe you made the right political, religious choice...
How do you square your hate-filled rant with your professed disdain for the "hate" coming from people who disagree with you? Just curious.
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Old 10-11-2016, 10:14 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Who cares about his tax returns? You and I aren't going to see them, nor would you or I understand them. It's a non-issue with me. What matters to me is all the money Hillary takes from our enemies.
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Old 10-11-2016, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Makes Donny feel better if he thinks nobody in his tax bracket pays taxes. But they do--he's simply a deadbeat, being rewarded for bad business judgment. The casino he financed with junk bonds closed this week.

Warren Buffett to Trump: 'I have paid federal income tax every year since 1944' - Oct. 10, 2016

Warren Buffett calls Trump's bluff, releases his tax returns
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Old 10-11-2016, 10:25 AM
 
Location: S.E. US
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Makes Donny feel better if he thinks nobody in his tax bracket pays taxes. But they do--he's simply a deadbeat, being rewarded for bad business judgment. The casino he financed with junk bonds closed this week.

Warren Buffett to Trump: 'I have paid federal income tax every year since 1944' - Oct. 10, 2016

Warren Buffett calls Trump's bluff, releases his tax returns
You must have missed this earlier...here you go...

The Clinton Foundation refiled three years of tax returns this week. Perhaps because of public scrutiny? Or was it because she's going after Trump and figured she'd better make sure hers are squeaky clean...(which they weren't, if she was required to refile).

http://megynkelly.org/177837/clinton...blic-scrutiny/
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Old 10-11-2016, 10:32 AM
 
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How do you square your hate-filled rant with your professed disdain for the "hate" coming from people who disagree with you? Just curious.
I don't hate those people--I pity them and their blind following of politicians who use them as tools...
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