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Old 06-17-2016, 07:06 AM
 
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Even though Bernie may not be a member of the Democrat Party, he understands the GOP is for the donors and will do what ever they wish. Hence the passage of Nafta, repeal of Glass-Stegall, Bush tax cuts, failure to correct Citizens United,failure to reinstate the AWB, failure to consent to nominations and passage of the TPA.

The GOP the party of do-nothings.
So, Clinton isn't for the donors? Liberals really will buy any lie those grifters are selling.

And please, before you start slamming the GOP, you might want to check your facts - CLINTON passed Nafta. And Citizens United was decided by the Supreme Court - no "correction" can be done.
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Old 06-17-2016, 07:09 AM
 
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69% of Sanders supporters will support whoever is the Democratic nominee. That 20% of Sanders supporters are likely independents who would have swung Republican in any case.

The numbers remain, Clinton has a lead in Democrats, woman and minorities that is as great or greater than Obama's lead in 2012.
The rest of the article.....

It's important to note that this has shifted since our last poll in March. At that point, only 9 percent of Sanders supporters said they planned to vote for Trump.

So in just a few months the support went from 9% to 20%. That's huge. It's only gotten worse from there. If Sanders sells out it will heal some of that but the chasm between Sanders supporters and Hillary is getting larger, not smaller.

Do I think that 20% will go to Trump? No, I do not but I think the percent that goes (L) or (G) or simply stays home is higher than shown.

I dabble locally in the (L) party and I will completely agree that this is anecdotal but almost to a person they noted that when you take one of those online tests where they align you with candidates (which I will also admit are not super accurate) that their top three were Johnson, Sanders and Stein.

I have to think that if I went to a Sanders rally (there were none locally) the results would be the same.
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Old 06-17-2016, 07:11 AM
 
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2020 Gillibrand/Webb
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Old 06-17-2016, 07:13 AM
 
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Even though Bernie may not be a member of the Democrat Party, he understands the GOP is for the donors and will do what ever they wish. Hence the passage of Nafta, repeal of Glass-Stegall, Bush tax cuts, failure to correct Citizens United,failure to reinstate the AWB, failure to consent to nominations and passage of the TPA.

The GOP the party of do-nothings.
Sanders supporters are far more sophisticated than that. It's already been noted why.
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Old 06-17-2016, 07:15 AM
 
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It's not a complicated thing to understand.

I've always admired his passion...even when his passion was directed toward criticizing HRC. Even if I don't like what he proposes, I believe he cares about people. He's refreshingly sincere.

If HRC didn't het the nomination, I'd have no problem voting for Bernie.

I get it, you can't vote for HRC because the differences are too great. That's fine. For me, the differences aren't insurmountable.
So her support for Wall Street, for more wars, for trade deals that harm jobs, for not supporting UHC is not insurmountable? What exactly is left?
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Old 06-17-2016, 07:16 AM
 
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Hm, wonder what went on in that meeting with Obama? He offered him huge sums of money, or reminded him of what happened to people that cross the Clintons, are my guesses.
Money? For what? He's 75.....he's interested in a new sports car?
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Old 06-17-2016, 07:19 AM
 
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Default Closer than you think!

Many Bernies Suppers despise Clinton and with a indictment near just may change everything. Trump remains the outsider and with the recent Orlando Terrorism act and the luke warm response from Bernie Spokesman from O'Reily's Show Last night.


Many of Burnies Supports may go Trump. Bernies supporter clearly feel they have been cheated by the DNC.
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Old 06-17-2016, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Wrightwood, California
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True Progressive Bernie supporters will go Green before Trump. If they vote for Trump, they are not progressives- it's that simple.
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Old 06-17-2016, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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So, Clinton isn't for the donors? Liberals really will buy any lie those grifters are selling.

And please, before you start slamming the GOP, you might want to check your facts - CLINTON passed Nafta. And Citizens United was decided by the Supreme Court - no "correction" can be done.
Congress had the opportunity to fix the law that Citizens United struck down. They refused to do so because the GOP benefits from super-large donations. Clinton signed NAFTA, but it was passed by the GOP Congress. Considering how Trump calls Hillary a tool of Wall St., this is how hedge funds have been donating:

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Old 06-17-2016, 08:33 AM
 
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Congress had the opportunity to fix the law that Citizens United struck down. They refused to do so because the GOP benefits from super-large donations. Clinton signed NAFTA, but it was passed by the GOP Congress. Considering how Trump calls Hillary a tool of Wall St., this is how hedge funds have been donating:
The GOP passed the law that was struck down in the first place. The case was decided in Jan 2010. Obamacare was passed two months later. How is it the fault of the GOP?

We will note your chart in 2008 when Obama was elected.
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