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Old 08-02-2016, 09:21 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Mack Knife View Post
The Kahns are political hacks. If they wanted to honor their son's service there are far better ways to do that than making issues at the DNC convention.

Gold Star family?

Then act like it.
How exactly should one act when a loved one is lost at war?

Should they just allow the prospective President to denigrate immigrants and those who share the same religion as them, knowing that their son died to protect those same freedoms? Or should they speak up, so they won't feel that their son died in vain?

Unbelievable. Now we're telling grieving families how to act so that it suits your politics? You people have some gall.

In any case, there's a reason Squirrelwig McRacistpants is slipping in the polls lately, most people with a conscious find this latest diarrhea of the mouth to be a bit too much.

 
Old 08-02-2016, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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Originally Posted by Mack Knife View Post
The Kahns are political hacks. If they wanted to honor their son's service there are far better ways to do that than making issues at the DNC convention.

Gold Star family?

Then act like it.

I hope one of your children is never killed in battle or dies. It might open your eyes to what the Khans were saying and feeling. Only an insensitive person would see their pain for anything other than what it was, and that they were simply saying "Don't paint all Muslims with the same brush. Some of us are good Americans, like our beloved son, who gave his life for America."

That was ALL they were saying, and if you spin it into something else, you are no better than Trump.

Don
 
Old 08-02-2016, 09:23 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Petty Pendergrass View Post
How exactly should one act when a loved one is lost at war?

Should they just allow the prospective President to denigrate immigrants and those who share the same religion as them, knowing that their son died to protect those same freedoms? Or should they speak up, so they won't feel that their son died in vain?

Unbelievable. Now we're telling grieving families how to act so that it suits your politics? You people have some gall.

In any case, there's a reason Squirrelwig McRacistpants is slipping in the polls lately, most people with a conscious find this latest diarrhea of the mouth to be a bit too much.
Didn't the dems use the family to help meet a political goal?
 
Old 08-02-2016, 09:24 AM
 
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Any man with a working brain cell would not even mention building a business empire in the same sacrifice context as having your child come home in a flag draped coffin. It doesn't matter if he said "as much or more." Period.

And let's not forget the greater point of Mr. Khan's speech: Trump's broad brush painting of all Muslim-Americans as terrorists and people to fear.
Mr. Kahn's speech was nothing more than the use of their son's death to further a political point.

Their son's death had nothing to do with politics, it had to do with service to the country, the entire country, not the liberals, not the conservatives, not the democrats and not the republicans.

Mr. Kahn saw fit to use a fallen soldier's service to put forth his own political agenda.

Shameful. A gold Star tarnished by the political antics of the father.
 
Old 08-02-2016, 09:24 AM
 
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I hope one of your children is never killed in battle or dies. It might open your eyes to what the Khans were saying and feeling. Only an insensitive person would see their pain for anything other than what it was, and that they were simply saying "Don't paint all Muslims with the same brush. Some of us are good Americans, like our beloved son, who gave his life for America."

That was ALL they were saying, and if you spin it into something else, you are no better than Trump.

Don
Didn't Trump say "they seem like great people"?

Where did Trump say all Muslims are bad?
 
Old 08-02-2016, 09:26 AM
 
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I'm a veteran, I find the letter repulsive.

Oddly enough, for the party of "morality", that low just seems to get lower everyday.
Most mature people find the cult of Trump to be repulsive because of the threat such views pose to the American democracy. They violate the memories of all the soldiers that died in the World Wars to protect our freedom from fascism, and all of the soldiers that fought and died in the various theaters since the Wars.

The Republican Party began to veer from traditional values and morals about the time that Limbaugh began the neocon agenda via talk radio. It was just a matter of time before they went full immersion into the gutter.

Did you see General Allen's speech at the DNC? It has not gotten as much press but I thought it was the greatest speech I had heard in a long, long time. Worth taking a look at it, as a vet I am sure you will appreciate it even more than I.

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Old 08-02-2016, 09:31 AM
 
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Most mature people found that letter, and the cult of Trump in general to be repulsive because of the threat such views pose to the American democracy. They violate the memories of all the soldiers that died in the World Wars to protect our freedom from fascism.

The Republican Party began to veer from traditional values and morals about the time that Limbaugh began the neocon agenda via talk radio. It was just a matter of time before they went full immersion in the gutter.
The memories of the fallen were violated when Mr. Kahn stood up and used the sacrifice of a soldier for their country as a political statement to benefit a specific political campaign.

That is what most mature people found.

The rest are still looking for their maturity and waiting for the DNC to tell them where to buy it.
 
Old 08-02-2016, 09:38 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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Originally Posted by Mack Knife View Post
Mr. Kahn's speech was nothing more than the use of their son's death to further a political point.

Their son's death had nothing to do with politics, it had to do with service to the country, the entire country, not the liberals, not the conservatives, not the democrats and not the republicans.

Mr. Kahn saw fit to use a fallen soldier's service to put forth his own political agenda.

Shameful. A gold Star tarnished by the political antics of the father.
If you had a son that had died as a hero while serving our country and you had to watch a man like Trump continually degrade and paint people in your particular religion as if they are all terrorists you might feel differently. Mr Khan was standing up to say that anti-Muslim hatred is a cancer that Trump is trying to spread and rather than to help stop terrorism, Trump is helping ISIS. Who better to deliver that message than the parents of a Muslim-America war hero? Of course, it's political! Trump is political, you're political, I'm political. Everyone has a political agenda including the Pope. That doesn't make Mr. Khan wrong for entering the public arena for a cause he believes in.
 
Old 08-02-2016, 09:41 AM
 
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Default Am I wrong but wasn't it the Democrats who were using the Gold Star family as a prop?

But it's Trump who is the bad guy here? I'm not agreeing at all with Trump's reaction but how ridiculous for them to try to exploit that now.

This is why Gary Johnson's numbers are jumping.
 
Old 08-02-2016, 09:44 AM
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The entrenched powers that be have everyone talking about this 5 days later. Meanwhile the election that they rigged (major Huge story) hasn't been mentioned since day one.
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