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Old 08-17-2016, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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How can Hillary be Pro-Gay when she takes money ( a LOT of money) from countries who kill Gay people?

 
Old 08-17-2016, 03:44 PM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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She is whatever she needs to be to benefit herself politically. Any fool should be able to see that, but liberals are real easy to be fooled.
 
Old 08-17-2016, 03:57 PM
 
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Originally Posted by American Expat View Post
Hillary takes no stance until someone writes her a check to say whatever it is they want....guess she got a check (I'd bet my life on it).
Thank you. I Guess i'm not the only one who thinks this. great minds think alike!
 
Old 08-17-2016, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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So tell us, why is the GOP platform STILL anti-LGBT today?
Bible thumpers will are a major part of their party. Even phony ones like Trump

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...hurch-in-iowa/

Trump: Drink my little wine, have my little cracker - CNN Video

Citing 'Two Corinthians,' Trump Struggles To Make The Sale To Evangelicals : NPR
 
Old 08-17-2016, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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Two words:

political expediency
Correct. Same goes for 95% of politicians, regardless of party.

Most politicians and parties don't give a damn about the people. The people are the "unwashed masses" in the eyes of the political elite. Most politicians just want votes, money and power. Hillary and the Democrats see lots of potential votes in the gay community, and they also realize that most pro-LGBT people are young (and thus potential Dem voters for years and decades), so they publicly take on LGBT-friendly stances and promote them via the media. It's Politics 101.

With that said, I believe Hillary herself has been LGBT-friendly for decades. It's just that the whole pro-gay/anti-gay thing didn't attract much public and media attention until recently. Once it did (i.e. once a lot more people started giving a damn), it became politically expedient to push and promote LGBT-friendly stances and policies. I think social media, blogs, Youtube, etc have played a substantial role in bringing more attention to this.
 
Old 08-17-2016, 04:55 PM
 
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So tell us, why is the GOP platform STILL anti-LGBT today?
Because that section of the platform is stupid and idiotic. Luckily for gays, not all Republicans feel the same way, its why the Republicans went to court to remove DADT for example while Democrats defended it..
 
Old 08-17-2016, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Social change don't occur over night. Most of us change with the times.
They are not looking for a right answer - just more wood to add to the fire.
 
Old 08-17-2016, 05:04 PM
 
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How can Hillary be Pro-Gay when she takes money ( a LOT of money) from countries who kill Gay people?
Because she wants gays out of the closet so they know who to target..
 
Old 08-17-2016, 06:23 PM
 
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The Democrats, even Obama himself opposed gay marriage.. up until the courts ruled it was unconstitutional...
It's not that you lie, it's that you do it so badly.


May 2012:

Obama announces he supports same-sex marriage - CNNPolitics.com

June 2015:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/27/us...-marriage.html

Why not look it up?
 
Old 08-17-2016, 06:31 PM
 
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Obama sent lawyers to fight against gay rights, in court cases like DADT..
DADT was abolished in September 2011. So the new timeline:


September 2011:

DADT is no more.

May 2012:

Obama announces he supports same-sex marriage.

June 2015:

Obergefell v. Hodges.

When you say "even Obama himself opposed gay marriage.. up until the courts ruled it was unconstitutional.." - you're not telling the truth. Plain and simple.
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