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Old 09-18-2016, 04:01 PM
 
Location: DFW
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trump says he's a Christian. ... but aren't Christians not supposed to judge people? aren't Christians not supposed to make fun of disabled people? aren't Christians not supposed to cheat their subcontractors? aren't Christians not supposed to cheat on their wives? aren't Christians not supposed to commit fraud and racketeering? aren't Christians not supposed to bribe politicians?
Christian Churches are filled with sinners not saints.
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Old 09-18-2016, 04:04 PM
 
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Christian Churches are filled with sinners not saints.
Interesting that such a standard is only available to Republican Christians.
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Old 09-18-2016, 04:09 PM
 
Location: FL
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Irrelevant and pointless. I'm not a Trump supporter. Everything isn't 'US vs. THEM'.



What? My point is that (unless I am wrong about Christians believing that only God is supposed to judge people), by saying that he is a Christian and caring about his legacy/how historians (who are people, not god) judge him he either:

A. Is a hypocrite

or

B. Only says he is a Christian, and sat in pews at a 'Christian' church for 20 years because it was politically expedient (could actually be Atheist, Agnostic, Buddhist, Muslim, Taoist...lots of other things)
Who is Obama judging? Being a christian means you can't care about anything, really???
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Old 09-18-2016, 04:19 PM
 
Location: FL
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Originally Posted by kat in aiken View Post
trump says he's a Christian. ... but aren't Christians not supposed to judge people? aren't Christians not supposed to make fun of disabled people? aren't Christians not supposed to cheat their subcontractors? aren't Christians not supposed to cheat on their wives? aren't Christians not supposed to commit fraud and racketeering? aren't Christians not supposed to bribe politicians?
That is different because Trump is a business man and he knows "2" Corinthians.
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Old 09-18-2016, 04:26 PM
 
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Of course, that is not what he said. The Fox story (the quoted part in the OP) has it right but the attention grabbing link line is well, Fox. He said if they don't vote he would be insulted, not if they don't vote for Clinton. Keep in mind, too, his speech was to the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation. Who cares, anyway? What should worry the Rs is the forcefulness and persuasiveness of his speech. He's good. And he is going to be out there working crowds for Hillary for the next couple months.
Oh I hope he's out there working the crowds daily, reminding people how much of a failure the Democratic party is...
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Old 09-18-2016, 04:29 PM
 
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Oh I hope he's out there working the crowds daily, reminding people how much of a failure the Democratic party is...
President Obama scores his highest approval ratings since 2009 | McClatchy DC
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Old 09-18-2016, 04:37 PM
 
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Neither one of them are Christians from what I can see. I am not the ultimate judge... but one is not necessarily a Christian because they say so. What we can judge is the fruit of their lives.

Look at the fruit of both of them, I don't see it.
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Old 09-18-2016, 04:40 PM
 
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Neither one of them are Christians from what I can see. I am not the ultimate judge... but one is not necessarily a Christian because they say so. What we can judge is the fruit of their lives.

Look at the fruit of both of them, I don't see it.
What fruit are you talking about? Trump's daughter Marie Antoinette? Or his David Duke wannabe?

Donald Trump Jr. Has Got A White Supremacist Problem | Right Wing Watch
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Old 09-18-2016, 04:46 PM
 
Location: Surprise, AZ
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Trump supporters are already defending the comment. Don't try to say the rhetoric doesn't apply to all when that is clearly not the case. When a Trump supporter called President Obama a "perverted mullah" and Trump supporters rush to defend it, that is not one bad apple. That is the nature of Trump supporters, where they defend white supremacist retweets, etc. Trump supporters may as well own it because that's what the public thinks of them.
I have heard much worse things said about Trump and his family, so let's not pretend that you and your fellow supporters who indulge in that type of behavior as well are innocent. You are clearly attempting to discount the voices of others by using words like white supremacy to describe these individuals. Is that what you believe about anyone who voices concerns about Obama or Hillary?
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Old 09-18-2016, 04:49 PM
 
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I have heard much worse things said about Trump and his family, so let's not pretend that you and your fellow supporters who indulge in that type of behavior as well are innocent. You are clearly attempting to discount the voices of others by using words like white supremacy to describe these individuals. Is that what you believe about anyone who voices concerns about Obama or Hillary?
I don't consider calling President Obama a "perverted mullah" a concern. Honestly, I'm shocked it's allowed here but since it apparently is, Trump supporters have to own what people think of them for using such a phrase.
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