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Old 12-02-2016, 10:06 AM
 
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Originally Posted by crone View Post
I can get most of those documents at any flea market in Houston. Many do.

One third of the drivers in Texas have no license or insurance.

I still do not think more than a handful of illegals vote. It is too risky. Why risk getting mixed up with ICE and deported to vote for Hillary?
You're correct, of course, but don't try to talk sense to believers in conspiracy theories. It's pointless.

 
Old 12-02-2016, 10:09 AM
 
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Unless you retroactively strip citizenship from millions of voters born in this country, you're never going to see a 90% non-Hispanic white America again. If anyone secretly longs for the Ward Clever America of their youth, that's not coming back.
This is a typical left wing distortion and race baiting. No one said anything about wanting a whiter or 1950's American. Just looking for honesty and decency. Stuff like this shows why the left is sinking ---they have no commonality with most Americans---of all races.
 
Old 12-02-2016, 10:36 AM
 
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The problem for Trump in 2020 is he will invariably face a better candidate than Hillary Clinton. And that candidate will have better sense than to ignore half their base and their own must-win states.


There simply are not enough illegal immigrants voting to make even make up Clinton's current popular vote lead. Someone without her unfavorable would have pulled at least another 1 or 2% nationally and the needed 80-90k votes across Pa, Wisconsin and Michigan.
 
Old 12-02-2016, 10:40 AM
 
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Voter ID for every voter! That will not solve all the issues as many will try to get a false ID and we all know that many young people have false ID to get into a bar or Club. So don't say that doesn't exist.

Stop issuing a similar drivers license for illegal aliens as for legal aliens.

Make it a total different color so it stands out! If an illegal should even be able to get a drivers license. If so than make sure they need to be insured at all times and if they (illegal alien) get caught without insurance, regardless of what status they will need to be deported!
 
Old 12-02-2016, 10:42 AM
 
Location: N Atlanta
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Voter ID for every voter! That will not solve all the issues as many will try to get a false ID and we all know that many young people have false ID to get into a bar or Club. So don't say that doesn't exist.

Stop issuing a similar drivers license for illegal aliens as for legal aliens.

Make it a total different color so it stands out! If an illegal should even be able to get a drivers license. If so than make sure they need to be insured at all times and if they (illegal alien) get caught without insurance, regardless of what status they will need to be deported!
How about we just deport illegal aliens and spare the expense of a separate driver's license ?
 
Old 12-02-2016, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Eastern Shore of Maryland
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Again with this, illegals are not able to vote, I would think if this was happening even in the thousands you guys would have some shed of evidence but you still can't to date, youtube doesn't count? (just trying to wrap my head around the logistics of how this would even work?)

Illegals are being deported in the millions even for non violent crimes including in the so called sanctuary cities so what is Trump suppose to do that isn't already being done? (Americans are affected more by a presidency and half the country didn't even care to vote, but some how we are to believe that millions of illegals would got out there to risk it all on a vote, found fake IDs or loop holes, some how undetected (please do not bring up CA driver license laws which I am still yet to see proof that this actually happens). If you can supply proof I'd be happy to review, please do not include some drunk guy on youtube or some edited video of Obama please...and especially no Infowar/Alex Jones type of link, I know you guys don't follow the MSM and reading some comments it seems like you follow these guys instead...

If Trump adds another million deportations under his administration who will you blame next is my question?
Do you have proof that it does not happen? No, you don't. There is no reason we have to believe it doesn't happen, just because you say so. WE already have proof of the the way Democrats run a "Fair Election" by hook and crook, so they would absolutely have no problem with illegal voters.
 
Old 12-02-2016, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Eastern Shore of Maryland
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Originally Posted by bentlebee View Post
Voter ID for every voter! That will not solve all the issues as many will try to get a false ID and we all know that many young people have false ID to get into a bar or Club. So don't say that doesn't exist.

Stop issuing a similar drivers license for illegal aliens as for legal aliens.

Make it a total different color so it stands out! If an illegal should even be able to get a drivers license. If so than make sure they need to be insured at all times and if they (illegal alien) get caught without insurance, regardless of what status they will need to be deported!
Don't give illegals any kind of license. They are illegals. That means they have no legal rights here. NONE.
 
Old 12-02-2016, 10:47 AM
 
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Again with this, illegals are not able to vote, I would think if this was happening even in the thousands you guys would have some shed of evidence but you still can't to date, youtube doesn't count? (just trying to wrap my head around the logistics of how this would even work?)

Illegals are being deported in the millions even for non violent crimes including in the so called sanctuary cities so what is Trump suppose to do that isn't already being done? (Americans are affected more by a presidency and half the country didn't even care to vote, but some how we are to believe that millions of illegals would got out there to risk it all on a vote, found fake IDs or loop holes, some how undetected (please do not bring up CA driver license laws which I am still yet to see proof that this actually happens). If you can supply proof I'd be happy to review, please do not include some drunk guy on youtube or some edited video of Obama please...and especially no Infowar/Alex Jones type of link, I know you guys don't follow the MSM and reading some comments it seems like you follow these guys instead...

If Trump adds another million deportations under his administration who will you blame next is my question?


you are clueless....States like California gives D.L. to illegals, legal status and protection from federal enforcement on immigration. What risk does an illegal alien has of voting if there is NO ENFORCEMENT at the local at state level? they look the other way.....is there a TASK FORCE in California that investigates and arrest illegals for registering to vote and if they get caught which is hard to do, they send in the task force to make the busts? PLEASE!!!! NOT even the local police will touch that because they have been ordered by California top government to lay off anything that has to do with immigration.......why do you think California has over 5 million illegals roaming around Cali with legal status and D.L.?



you think election officials in California will call ICE and exchange information to enforce immigration laws when a resident of California registers to vote which is very easy in California? this is how naive you sound.


you want proof,,,,,easy lets have a federal task force and lets start in California and have a real audit and investigate the voters registration data base and make sure every social security matches with the person and that person is a legal resident of California.,,,,,,,,but who are you kidding? California officials will NEVER let that happen, they will fight tooth and nail in the courts in California to prevent any exposure how the government has been looking the other way on illegal immigration.


if illegals find loopholes to get jobs and government benefits don't you think they will find a loophole to vote in a state that protects them and gives them legal status and looks the other way to VOTE AGAINST a Presidential candidate that they see as dangerous of ending the status quo for them? OF COURSE, DUH!!! What risk do they take? not much! California officials will not investigate, will not cross reference anything on the millions of illegals in their state and the prisons in California are already crowded, this is not on top on their list.


get a clue!.....illegals in states like California have it good because they can get D.L. and legal status and government services and you think they will not find loopholes to keep the status quo when most government officials in California protects them and you have Telemundo and Unisivion telling them everyday to UNITE and vote against the Presidential Candidate that wants to end what you have and send you back to your country? of course they will, that's how naive you are!
 
Old 12-02-2016, 10:52 AM
 
Location: A van down by the river
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Originally Posted by 2nd trick op View Post
There has to be some serious recognition of the facts on both sides of the National Divide: The GOP has to stop sucking up to the religious right and the geezers dreaming of a return to Ward Cleaver's America, and the Democrats have to abandon their love affair with more and bigger government, and abandon the myth that somewhere, there's a huge pile of easy money for them to redistribute.

Not likely in a world dominated by the electronic media, where delusions sell better than facts.
The right hasn't been sucking up to the religious or geezers, they simply have not been attacking them relentlessly trying hard to make ALL of them look like hateful bigots and destroy there freedoms.
 
Old 12-02-2016, 10:59 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Originally Posted by Hellion1999 View Post
you are clueless....States like California gives D.L. to illegals, legal status and protection from federal enforcement on immigration. What risk does an illegal alien has of voting if there is NO ENFORCEMENT at the local at state level? they look the other way.....is there a TASK FORCE in California that investigates and arrest illegals for registering to vote and if they get caught which is hard to do, they send in the task force to make the busts? PLEASE!!!! NOT even the local police will touch that because they have been ordered by California top government to lay off anything that has to do with immigration.......why do you think California has over 5 million illegals roaming around Cali with legal status and D.L.?



you think election officials in California will call ICE and exchange information to enforce immigration laws when a resident of California registers to vote which is very easy in California? this is how naive you sound.


you want proof,,,,,easy lets have a federal task force and lets start in California and have a real audit and investigate the voters registration data base and make sure every social security matches with the person and that person is a legal resident of California.,,,,,,,,but who are you kidding? California officials will NEVER let that happen, they will fight tooth and nail in the courts in California to prevent any exposure how the government has been looking the other way on illegal immigration.


if illegals find loopholes to get jobs and government benefits don't you think they will find a loophole to vote in a state that protects them and gives them legal status and looks the other way to VOTE AGAINST a Presidential candidate that they see as dangerous of ending the status quo for them? OF COURSE, DUH!!! What risk do they take? not much! California officials will not investigate, will not cross reference anything on the millions of illegals in their state and the prisons in California are already crowded, this is not on top on their list.


get a clue!.....illegals in states like California have it good because they can get D.L. and legal status and government services and you think they will not find loopholes to keep the status quo when most government officials in California protects them and you have Telemundo and Unisivion telling them everyday to UNITE and vote against the Presidential Candidate that wants to end what you have and send you back to your country? of course they will, that's how naive you are!

Obviously you are clueless but then you voted for Trump so you are excused..
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