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Old 09-13-2018, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Atlanta metro (Cobb County)
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It is a good question if Gillum and Nelson will campaign together at some point. They are probably targeting slightly different coalitions, and Nelson has what appears to be a stronger opponent. DeSantis seems to have gone a bit off track since the primary while Scott has demonstrated a better capability to connect statewide, beyond his party's base voters. (Obviously he has an advantage being the outgoing governor vs. a House member representing 1/27 of the state).

 
Old 09-13-2018, 02:44 PM
 
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It is a good question if Gillum and Nelson will campaign together at some point. They are probably targeting slightly different coalitions, and Nelson has what appears to be a stronger opponent. DeSantis seems to have gone a bit off track since the primary while Scott has demonstrated a better capability to connect statewide, beyond his party's base voters. (Obviously he has an advantage being the outgoing governor vs. a House member representing 1/27 of the state).
Anyone showing up explicitly for Gillum is voting against Scott. If I were Nelson, I would hold steady to keep what he has instead of going full progressive. He should support Gillum, but not adopt his platform.

On a side note: Rick Scott again today trying to run away from Trump and his Puerto Rico comments, Dems need to not let him sell his independence. He was the chairman of the primary PAC to get Trump elected, Dems need to put that noose around Scotts neck and let Trump tighten it with every stupid tweet.
 
Old 09-13-2018, 02:56 PM
 
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Looking good for Trump, as he won't lose everything the way Obama did in 2010.
Obama 2010 is the biggest loser in American history.
 
Old 09-13-2018, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Anyone showing up explicitly for Gillum is voting against Scott. If I were Nelson, I would hold steady to keep what he has instead of going full progressive. He should support Gillum, but not adopt his platform.

On a side note: Rick Scott again today trying to run away from Trump and his Puerto Rico comments, Dems need to not let him sell his independence. He was the chairman of the primary PAC to get Trump elected, Dems need to put that noose around Scotts neck and let Trump tighten it with every stupid tweet.
Here in Florida Nelson has been soft with his TV ads espousing his credentials and not attacking Scott.
Then a new ad came out today ripping Scott to shreds on his Medicare fraud , his denial of Medicaid expansion to almost a million Floridians, his environmental record and blaming his stewardship for these toxic algae blooms as well as slashing the education budget for teachers.
Glad to see that the gloves are off!

As for the Puerto Rico comments Trump just keeps insulting a growing demographic here in Florida & DeSantis has hitched his caboose to him.
I predict Gillum will be our next Governor.
 
Old 09-17-2018, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Actually it's not . If Dems in the cities voted at the same rate as rural counties, Dems would win all of these races with the exception of North Dakota , and that's because there is actually a higher percentage of Democrats in rural areas than there are Republicans in cities .
This is true. The problem for Dems is always turnout. The people who tend to vote Dem are just not as reliable at turning out to actually vote, especially in midterms.
 
Old 09-17-2018, 10:35 AM
 
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When you think about how many people simply vote the party line, it should be a disappointment if Republicans don't have 60 Senate seats. Consider that if Trump is truly as popular as Republicans believe, he should have a really good shot at his party winning the Senate seats in 30 of the states that he won in 2016.

Now, of course, the Senate isn't the House. The seats that are up rotate. But, if you ask me, if the people felt the country is doing as well as Trump and other Republicans claim, Republicans should be picking up a lot of Senate seats - nearly to the point of supermajority.

Funny though, that the talk is more about their fear of losing the Senate to Democrats. Why should they fear it? They are only protecting 9 seats versus the Democrats defending 26. Honestly, seats in MT, WV, MO, ND, and NV should be a "gimme" for Republicans. And they should be running away with defending AZ, TN and TX. But they are all in play.

Sounds like people aren't buying the story Republicans are spinning.
 
Old 09-20-2018, 10:30 AM
 
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This is true. The problem for Dems is always turnout. The people who tend to vote Dem are just not as reliable at turning out to actually vote, especially in midterms.
You must have missed the news that Dems are enjoying a record turnout in primary elections... or just choosing to ignore bad news because when u add record Dem turnout to dissatisfied Indepedents, you get a blue wave recipe. But carrying on....
 
Old 09-20-2018, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Atlanta metro (Cobb County)
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When you think about how many people simply vote the party line, it should be a disappointment if Republicans don't have 60 Senate seats. Consider that if Trump is truly as popular as Republicans believe, he should have a really good shot at his party winning the Senate seats in 30 of the states that he won in 2016.

Now, of course, the Senate isn't the House. The seats that are up rotate. But, if you ask me, if the people felt the country is doing as well as Trump and other Republicans claim, Republicans should be picking up a lot of Senate seats - nearly to the point of supermajority.

Funny though, that the talk is more about their fear of losing the Senate to Democrats. Why should they fear it? They are only protecting 9 seats versus the Democrats defending 26. Honestly, seats in MT, WV, MO, ND, and NV should be a "gimme" for Republicans. And they should be running away with defending AZ, TN and TX. But they are all in play.

Sounds like people aren't buying the story Republicans are spinning.
I think Trump could very well be busy on Wednesday 11/7, attacking the poor performance of some of the Senate and governor (and maybe even House) candidates in locations that he won - blaming their failures on not running close enough to him, of course. Some of the voters who supported (and opposed) Trump in 2016 are not going to turn out for midterms, so there is going to be a different electorate that is likely more educated and affluent as a whole than in the presidential race. And while Trump is pretty consistent in trashing the Democrats, he is often non-supportive of the Republican Congress and their agenda, so some of his ardent fans are not going to be motivated this fall when he isn't literally on the ballot himself.
 
Old 09-20-2018, 04:18 PM
 
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You must have missed the news that Dems are enjoying a record turnout in primary elections... or just choosing to ignore bad news because when u add record Dem turnout to dissatisfied Indepedents, you get a blue wave recipe. But carrying on....
Quite the opposite here-
Republican Pete Flores defeated Democrat Pete Gallego in the special runoff election for State Senate District 19. It's a major upset in district that has traditionally favored Democrats.
Flores defeats Gallego Senate District 19 special election
 
Old 09-20-2018, 11:33 PM
 
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Quite the opposite here-
Republican Pete Flores defeated Democrat Pete Gallego in the special runoff election for State Senate District 19. It's a major upset in district that has traditionally favored Democrats.
Flores defeats Gallego Senate District 19 special election
A state senate special election? What was the turnout? I don't know if that really demonstrates a reversal of the current trend. Only time will tell. I wish November would get here already.
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