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Old 09-25-2008, 11:46 AM
 
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What I would have hoped for is that they at least changed the debate topic to the economy. I think that would be the most fitting solution. Right now, today, foreign policy isn't on our minds.
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Old 09-25-2008, 11:47 AM
 
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Rising above politics and doing what's right for the country would mean doing your job as a senator and working on a problem facing the American people, INSTEAD OF WORRYING ABOUT WHETHER YOU ARE GOING TO BE ELECTED PRESIDENT.

He hasn't been in the senate since April, and hadn't even read Paulson's 3 page plan as of Tuesday. What's more, there's this, when Obama contacted McCain to issue a "Joint Principles" memo...


While the McCain campaign distributed the statement as it was written, the Obama campaign included an appendage, explaining that it reflected only Obama's thinking, and outlining a series of principles that he'd hoped both sides could endorse. It included a now-predictable list: oversight, a path for taxpayers to recover their money, a mechanism to prevent Wall Street executives from profiting from taxpayer funds, foreclosure protections, and a ban on earmarks in the bill.

Here's the odd part: John McCain had said, as recently as Tuesday, that these are the exact same principles he wants to see included in any bailout package. On these points, McCain and Obama are on the same page. So why not say so in the joint statement?

Marc Ambinder reports that the McCain campaign "did not want to include them."

That does seem odd, doesn't it? On Tuesday, McCain publicly articulates five principles he wants to see in the package. On Wednesday, the Obama campaign asks McCain to endorse those exact same principles in a public statement, but the McCain campaign balks.


The Washington Monthly

There's a lot of ways to describe McCain's recent actions. "Rising above politics" is about as far from the truth as you're going to get.
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Old 09-25-2008, 11:47 AM
 
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Do you seriously believe that McCain is not worrying about election?
http://politicalkudzu.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/sarah-palin-1.jpg (broken link)

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“He's also known as a maverick though. Taking shots from his own party, and certainly taking shots from the other party. …”
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:16 PM
 
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They basically have a bill now, and Bush, McCain, and Obama have not met, so WHY did McCain need to put a stop to everything?
Even if he "suspended" the campaign, he should have had Sarah Palin take over. That is what a normal candidate would do.
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:17 PM
 
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Well when two parties oppose how a bill is structured debates ensue.
In the committees that neither Obama nor McCain serve on.

The only way this is a valid argument is if the bill will be debated on the floor of the senate at the exact same time as the debate on Friday night. Do you think that's going to happen?
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Why is this a black and white either-or decision for the right?? The debate taking place will have ZERO impact on whether or not the bill gets passed and/or if the economy tanks. How is delaying the debate going to help any of this?
Because there is no credit...no loans to anybody...your house is worth nothing...your 401k is losing by the day....hello...anybody with a clue...are you out there?

When you can't cash a check or your company can't meet payroll will you understand then? This has to be dealt with now...the debates can wait 4 days.

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"Get ready for real tough times. They're coming. There is no credit available." We are in for one hell of a deep downturn," Welch told the World Business Forum in New York on Wednesday, adding that the first quarter of 2009 will likely be "brutal."
"Last week as the credit markets were frozen, the capital markets were frozen, we had a situation where American companies weren't able to borrow money," Paulson said on ABC's "This Week". "This could ultimately affect small banks, loans to businesses, loans to farmers, jobs, people's retirement."
The $700 billion question: Can bailout fix economy? | U.S. | Reuters
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:25 PM
 
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In the committees that neither Obama nor McCain serve on.

The only way this is a valid argument is if the bill will be debated on the floor of the senate at the exact same time as the debate on Friday night. Do you think that's going to happen?
"Pelosi spoke to reporters as Democratic and Republican negotiators worked in a closed-door meeting on Capitol Hill to nail down the outline of an agreement by the end of the day. The pace of developments was quickening in advance of a highly-anticipated meeting that President Bush will hold with leading lawmakers and presidential nominees John McCain and Barack Obama later in the day."

The Associated Press: Deal said to be near on big financial bailout plan
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:27 PM
 
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"Pelosi spoke to reporters as Democratic and Republican negotiators worked in a closed-door meeting on Capitol Hill to nail down the outline of an agreement by the end of the day. The pace of developments was quickening in advance of a highly-anticipated meeting that President Bush will hold with leading lawmakers and presidential nominees John McCain and Barack Obama later in the day."

The Associated Press: Deal said to be near on big financial bailout plan
Thanks, but what does this have to do with the question I posed?
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:35 PM
 
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Rising above politics and doing what's right for the country would mean doing your job as a senator and working on a problem facing the American people, INSTEAD OF WORRYING ABOUT WHETHER YOU ARE GOING TO BE ELECTED PRESIDENT.
I'm sorry but this statement makes no sense. If McCain is not worried or concerned about being elected president, then he should not be running for president. This country needs someone who wants to lead, not someone who is only interested in political grandstanding and protecting his brand and hollow image as a "Maverick." Running for president is his job too since he was elected by the American people to represent his party and if he can't handle the burden and responsibilities of being both an an elected U.S. Senator and an elected nominee for president then he should drop out of the race.
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:39 PM
 
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Because there is no credit...no loans to anybody...your house is worth nothing...your 401k is losing by the day....hello...anybody with a clue...are you out there?

When you can't cash a check or your company can't meet payroll will you understand then? This has to be dealt with now...the debates can wait 4 days.

The $700 billion question: Can bailout fix economy? | U.S. | Reuters
So why don't you start wearing a fruit basket on your head and change your name to Banana to solve all these problems? That would have the exact same effect on this crisis as delaying the debate would.
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