Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
For someone to imagine that a person not born in the United States could fake a birth certificate and become a U.S. Senator (nevermind run for President!) you must have no faith whatsoever in the CIA, FBI or any of this country's intelligence agencies. Since the Republican Party would love to discredit Obama, you also must believe there is nobody in the Bush administration or the entire GOP who can come up with proof that Obama is lying, so as leaders they must all be naive, stupid or inadequate.
So, in other words, you have more faith in some nutcase than in our government, our security agencies and even your own party.
All you're showing is that the McCain base is full of uneducated, racist, reactionary right-wing nutcases.
Yup, everybodys a racist that doesn't like boy blunder. Why is 92% of the LEAST educated racial group in America voting for him? Sounds like obamas base is full of uneducated, racist, reactionary left-wing nutcases.
Yup, everybodys a racist that doesn't like boy blunder. Why is 92% of the LEAST educated racial group in America voting for him? Sounds like obamas base is full of uneducated, racist, reactionary left-wing nutcases.
Wow, you made it easy, thanks. <:
Obama has consistently pulled in the majority of highly educated voters as well. Against Hillary and against McCain.
For someone to imagine that a person not born in the United States could fake a birth certificate and become a U.S. Senator (nevermind run for President!) you must have no faith whatsoever in the CIA, FBI or any of this country's intelligence agencies. Since the Republican Party would love to discredit Obama, you also must believe there is nobody in the Bush administration or the entire GOP who can come up with proof that Obama is lying, so as leaders they must all be naive, stupid or inadequate.
So, in other words, you have more faith in some nutcase than in our government, our security agencies and even your own party.
You're over-looking the fact that in 1961 someone could be born in another country and have their birth registered in a US hospital, if the hospital believed the mother or father or both were US citizens.
Surely you aren't suggesting that every single person born in America in 1961 was born in a hospital are you? Because you would be wrong.
If you're born at home, how do you get a birth certificate? The mother farts and one falls out of the sky? Is that what you thought? No, someone goes to a hospital or to the county probate court and registers the birth.
Don't you remember the US trying to deport some of the mafiosos? They were actually born in Sicily or Calabria and brought to the US as infants by their parents or others and they bribed people to register a US birth certificate for them. It's very difficult to prove as time goes on.
Your claim that "you must have no faith whatsoever in the CIA, FBI or any of this country's intelligence agencies" is pathetic.
Your understanding of the capabilities of the CIA, FBI and other intelligence operations is bizarre, mythical, even fantastical to say the least.
Just because the US today tracks every single American who leaves or enters the US, doesn't mean it did so in 1961, and in fact, the US did not track US citizens entering or leaving the US unless they were under surveillance for criminal or espionage activity.
You're obviously a Generation X-Techie who thinks everything has a link on the internet. Well, no it doesn't.
Try as you might, you'll never find the child hood medical or hospital records for myself or my sister. They were destroyed. The doctor died, his attorney published a legal notice in the newspaper that his office had ceased practice and if people wanted their medical records, they'd have to come get them. I was out of the country and everyone else in my family was out of state, so we didn't find out until long after the fact.
In the 1960s it was the practice (and still is) of hospitals to destroy records after certain periods of time, usually after the statute of limitations involving any type of medical malpractice claim had expired.
Your claims that the FBI or CIA would discover a forgery fail, and you're also naive regarding the political fallout such an investigation would generate.
The Democrats would love nothing more than to show that Bush directed the FBI or CIA to investigate that matter, and by the way, that would be an impeachable offense for abuse of power.
For a country that drops everything its doing to run to a TV or get on the internet to find out when Paris Hilton peed last, I find it rather odd that not not one single network wants to interview Obama's half-sister or half-brother during prime-time.
Don't you want to know if Obama played Cowboys and Indians when he was growing up? I guess actually he would have played Javanese and Indians, but that's beside the point.
You're obviously a Generation X-Techie who thinks everything has a link on the internet. Well, no it doesn't.
Well, I need to go to sleep, but you sure gave me a nice laugh. You not only missed the entire point of my post, but actually proved it! From what you wrote, one has to assume it's almost impossible to know where anyone was born, right? What you are saying is that since it's really easy to fake a birth certificate, the only way we'll ever know that a person was really born in the United States is to have a time & date stamped video with witnesses from the press at the time of birth just in case the baby runs for president in 35 years. Oh, don't forget the DNA tests. Better yet, maybe to be careful we should only allow people who look like real Americans to run, preferably someone with a name like Bubba. Anyone else should be suspected of being a Muslim terrorist.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mircea
Your understanding of the capabilities of the CIA, FBI and other intelligence operations is bizarre, mythical, even fantastical to say the least
I was referring to all the "terrorist" activities he's being accused of by the ObamaCrimes site. After all, he went to Columbia, Harvard, was an IL State Senator for 8 years and has been a U.S. Senator for almost 4, so they must be able to find something to pin on him if he's been in contact with all his Muslim buddies who want to overthrow our government.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mircea
Don't you want to know if Obama played Cowboys and Indians when he was growing up? I guess actually he would have played Javanese and Indians, but that's beside the point.
Actually, no. Does it say in the Constitution that, in order to be President of the United States, someone has to play Cowboys and Indians? If not, then why does that matter? You have to be a natural-born citizen, 35 years of age and a resident for 14 years. Where you went to school, traveled or what your relatives look like aren't mentioned in Article II.
BTW, you probably would never have questioned someone who looks like Kevin Costner. Ever see "No Way Out"
Boy, now I really need to go to sleep. Yikes!
Last edited by justNancy; 09-29-2008 at 03:40 AM..
The DNC doesn't want you to see Obama's birth certificate
Quote:
Originally Posted by luzianne
I want to see a certified copy of his birth certificate. Apparently he has not produced this. And it's Howard Dean's job to make sure there is a qualified candidate on the ballot. We don't know if Obama is qualified.
Obama & DNC Hide Behind Legal Issues - Country Headed to a Constitutional Crisis (http://obamacrimes.com/index.php/component/content/article/1-main/22-obama-a-dnc-hide-behind-legal-issues-country-headed-to-a-constitutional-crisis - broken link)
You'd better alert the FBI. They'll get right on it, I'm sure.
BTW, please provide a list of the certified birth certificates you've seen for all other presidents and major party candidates, if this is such a concern.
So, in other words, you have more faith in some nutcase than in our government, our security agencies and even your own party.
The OP of this thread has shown herself to be not very mentally sound.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Why is 92% of the LEAST educated racial group in America voting for him? Sounds like obamas base is full of uneducated, racist, reactionary left-wing nutcases.
The DNC doesn't want you to see Obama's birth certificate
