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...We know McCain only got where he is because of his family...
Eh hem.....McCain could very well have been KIA in Vietnam and his family would have had not one thing to do with that. His dad wasn't sitting next to him in the cockpit holding the stick and dropping the bombs. Ever heard what the casualty rate was back then for fighter/attack missions in comparison to what it is today? It was alarming. The SAMS back then were pretty sophisticated in comparison to the defensive measures they had against them. When he strapped into that cockpit he was on his own. Daddy couldn't help him if he wanted to. Daddy couldn't deflect those SAMS and AAA. He was in harms way and was there at his discretion.
And his family didn't have a thing to do with the fact that even though he was offered an out to be sent home from the POW camp because of who his family was he turned it down in order for those prisoners who had been captured before him to go home in the order they were captured. Yeah that's the policy...but would you turn that offer down? I don't know if I could. If I'm getting my a$$ kicked and tortured I don't know if I could turn the offer of freedom down....but he did. He could very well have died from the further torture after that time. I personally believe his time as a POW shaped him better than anything his family could have done. And the bravery he demonstrated at that time speaks volumes for his character.
Yeah...I have some issues with how he treated his former wife.
Supposedly called his current wife a 'c'. But who hasn't been p.o.'d and said something they regretted?
I have worked in the aerospace and defense industry. So I've taken it on the chin a few times from the guy. He is on the Senate Armed Services Committee. There were times that decisions he made really put my company through the ringer. But it was all because he had issues with excess spending. Questioning the C-130J and 767 tanker deals was right. Dammit it made it hard on us but it was completely right. He was probably lobbied like crazy from my company and Boeing but he didn't waver. He's working for the tax payer first....and to me that proves it.
He's a solid guy and I'd say he's earned his way. Give him a break.
it is. because we are living in a police state where doing something that harms no one but yourself is illegal. it's pathetic. I don't do any drugs, but think they should all be decriminalized. look at our prisons for crying out loud.
OK. So you are bent out of shape because you think you should be allowed to do something you want to do, but because it is illegal we are in a police state.
Who ever Iran,sudan wants for US president ? I vote for the other guy ! period ! its not about the price we pay today...It's about the price we pay in the future !
Well, I don't remember Omar El-Bashir or Ayatollah Khamenei or President Ahmedinejad endorsing Obama..........I have "heard" that the KKK and the American Nazi Party endorse McCain though...........and I also know that there are racist skinheads out there who don't want Obama because he is black..............
Eh hem.....McCain could very well have been KIA in Vietnam and his family would have had not one thing to do with that. His dad wasn't sitting next to him in the cockpit holding the stick and dropping the bombs. Ever heard what the casualty rate was back then for fighter/attack missions in comparison to what it is today? It was alarming. The SAMS back then were pretty sophisticated in comparison to the defensive measures they had against them. When he strapped into that cockpit he was on his own. Daddy couldn't help him if he wanted to. Daddy couldn't deflect those SAMS and AAA. He was in harms way and was there at his discretion.
And his family didn't have a thing to do with the fact that even though he was offered an out to be sent home from the POW camp because of who his family was he turned it down in order for those prisoners who had been captured before him to go home in the order they were captured. Yeah that's the policy...but would you turn that offer down? I don't know if I could. If I'm getting my a$$ kicked and tortured I don't know if I could turn the offer of freedom down....but he did. He could very well have died from the further torture after that time. I personally believe his time as a POW shaped him better than anything his family could have done. And the bravery he demonstrated at that time speaks volumes for his character.
Yeah...I have some issues with how he treated his former wife.
Supposedly called his current wife a 'c'. But who hasn't been p.o.'d and said something they regretted?
I have worked in the aerospace and defense industry. So I've taken it on the chin a few times from the guy. He is on the Senate Armed Services Committee. There were times that decisions he made really put my company through the ringer. But it was all because he had issues with excess spending. Questioning the C-130J and 767 tanker deals was right. Dammit it made it hard on us but it was completely right. He was probably lobbied like crazy from my company and Boeing but he didn't waver. He's working for the tax payer first....and to me that proves it.
He's a solid guy and I'd say he's earned his way. Give him a break.
I agree that McCain is (or at least used to be) a solid guy. If he had been KIA in Vietnam, that would have been a tragedy......but there were those who were drafted and were grunts rather than high-flying officers who did risky maneuvers in the air......they were KIA as well.
I'll tell ya what. I will try to not attack McCain on his background, character, etc. There is so much to attack on politics and issues alone. I just wish he would have done the same when dealing with Obama rather than trying to dehumanize, deAmericanize and make him into this fearsome "other." That is a very dangerous direction for him to have gone.
OK. So you are bent out of shape because you think you should be allowed to do something you want to do, but because it is illegal we are in a police state.
...........and I also know that there are racist skinheads out there who don't want Obama because he is black..............
LOL Did you think putting a half African American man on the ballot was going to get by unnoticed by the KKK and skinheads. They wouldn't care who the other guy was. As long as he was a white dude he was going to get their vote.
[quote=Sunil's Dad;5938694]Well, I don't remember Omar El-Bashir or Ayatollah Khamenei or President Ahmedinejad endorsing Obama..........I have "heard" that the KKK and the American Nazi Party endorse McCain though...........and I also know that there are racist skinheads out there who don't want Obama because he is black..............[/quote Correction..Ahmendinejad and the others ARE cheering for obama!! What KKK and nazi's?
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