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But a recent email from TeaParty.org asking for donations to Walker's campaign claims that Walker is "one of" the controversial group's "sponsors"—a claim the Walker campaign vehemently denies.
The group, which is also known as the 1776 Tea Party, was founded by Dale Robertson, who famously showed up at a Houston tea party rally in 2009 carrying a sign that said, "Congress = Slaveowner, Taxpayer = N***r."
I would disavow that tea party as well, and i am in the local tea party.
I just dont support the republican ideals, but I do support limited goverment.
Nothing wrong with "limited govt", but it must be more clearly defined than that. Why is Wall Street malfeasance off the tea party radar - it is they who caused this recession, not teachers, janitors, and their unions. Working people had nothing to do with the crash or the deficit, yet the tea party says nothing about Wall Street. Why - because Rove, the Kochs, Murdoch established and bankrolled the movement.
What do tea partiers have in common with these billionaires, who would not allow one of them in their back door?
Nothing wrong with "limited govt", but it must be more clearly defined than that. Why is Wall Street malfeasance off the tea party radar - it is they who caused this recession, not teachers, janitors, and their unions. Working people had nothing to do with the crash or the deficit, yet the tea party says nothing about Wall Street. Why - because Rove, the Kochs, Murdoch established and bankrolled the movement.
What do tea partiers have in common with these billionaires, who would not allow one of them in their back door?
uhm
wall street had very little to do with the crash
government intervention and policy was/is the main culprit
what was the two main causes of the crash.....lack of jobs, and a real estate bubble
jobs started leaving with nafta/cafta and the dozens of other 'freetrade' agrrements to include OFTA,,which is obamas free trade agreement with oman
the housing bubble..started in 1995 with clinton changing the mortgage rules
why wont liberal admit, the they and their globalist policies caused the problem...and they take their orders from the billioniare soros
Nothing wrong with "limited govt", but it must be more clearly defined than that. Why is Wall Street malfeasance off the tea party radar - it is they who caused this recession, not teachers, janitors, and their unions. Working people had nothing to do with the crash or the deficit, yet the tea party says nothing about Wall Street. Why - because Rove, the Kochs, Murdoch established and bankrolled the movement.
What do tea partiers have in common with these billionaires, who would not allow one of them in their back door?
You forget that much of what got them upset was the bail-out of Wall Street. They got their name because of sending Tea Bags to Congress in opposition to TARP.
There are those who wanted to use the label for their own agenda, no doubt. Just like there were those who wanted to use the OWS positions even though they had no intention of ever addressing them.
Those who were upset then are indeed still upset today.
I have no idea how anyone can say this with a straight face.
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government intervention and policy was/is the main culprit
None of it works unless Wall Street works with it hand in hand.
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what was the two main causes of the crash.....lack of jobs, and a real estate bubble
Who was it betting on real estate? Was it not that Goldman Sachs was selling mortgage securities that they were promoting as good investments that they knew was crap and were actually betting against them, not a big part of the problem?
Did the fact that these assets were being greatly misrepresented as to their value on the books not a big part of the problem?
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jobs started leaving with nafta/cafta and the dozens of other 'freetrade' agrrements to include OFTA,,which is obamas free trade agreement with oman
Much supported by Wall Street. No?
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the housing bubble..started in 1995 with clinton changing the mortgage rules
why wont liberal admit, the they and their globalist policies caused the problem...and they take their orders from the billioniare soros
Likely for the same reason you are only willing to blame one side. Pot-kettle
So a political campaign doesn't want to be linked to a questionable website? Wow, that's some really amazing reporting you got there Mother Jones. What a change from the normal reporting that the Mother Jones website provides it's completely unbiased followers.
wall street had very little to do with the crash government intervention and policy was/is the main culprit what was the two main causes of the crash.....lack of jobs, and a real estate bubble
jobs started leaving with nafta/cafta and the dozens of other 'freetrade' agrrements to include OFTA,,which is obamas free trade agreement with oman. the housing bubble..started in 1995 with clinton changing the mortgage rules
why wont liberal admit, the they and their globalist policies caused the problem...and they take their orders from the billioniare soros
That said, your entire post is flawed. Liberals and their globalist policies? It's a global economy. Politicians of all beliefs support free trade and globalism. That's why both the Canadian Prime Minister and the American President who signed NAFTA into law were conservative. There's a deadweight loss to trade when it comes to protectionism.
Wall Street had nothing to do with the recession? Given that they fund the daily operations of countries all over the country, that's entirely false.
Banks rolling poorly documented, non-traditional loan instruments into mortgage backed securities to get around leverage requirements and then further divesting risk by buying credit default swaps mostly all from one company was mostly why the financial system went crazy. Pretty much all of the safeguards in the system were avoided by doing all of the above.
Add in to that what Greenspan admitted was a mistake. Interest rates had been dropped for a prolonged period of time and this greatly led to the real estate bubble. It also took away the easiest way to stimulate the economy in the case of a recession.
You can add in to that the federal government decision in 2004 to remove state oversight to things like investment banks.
Unemployment was still low at the start of the Great Recession in 2007. When the banks started having real issues, companies pulled back on their spending, the real estate industry and construction industry stopped, capital markets dried up and unemployment was the result.
Perhaps the working class hero should leave complex financial discussions to the white collar heroes. I'll drop you a note if I need my car fixed though. I haven't bothered to learn any of that.
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You forget that much of what got them upset was the bail-out of Wall Street. They got their name because of sending Tea Bags to Congress in opposition to TARP.
There are those who wanted to use the label for their own agenda, no doubt. Just like there were those who wanted to use the OWS positions even though they had no intention of ever addressing them.
Those who were upset then are indeed still upset today.
You post is quite fair. Yes originally they did, but now if you listen to them they are supporting the goals of their billionaire backers.
Now a reason for Fox to report this, if they do, would be if their previous backers have no further use for them.
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uhm
wall street had very little to do with the crash
government intervention and policy was/is the main culprit
what was the two main causes of the crash.....lack of jobs, and a real estate bubble
jobs started leaving with nafta/cafta and the dozens of other 'freetrade' agrrements to include OFTA,,which is obamas free trade agreement with oman
the housing bubble..started in 1995 with clinton changing the mortgage rules
why wont liberal admit, the they and their globalist policies caused the problem...and they take their orders from the billioniare soros
Jeez, double-spaced Fox slogans repeated yet again. Clinton, the Dems, Soros, Carter, "liberal" media WHATEVER - the great power structure responsible for everything bad.
* Repub "Hands off" Wall Street allowed them to gamble with people's money, lose, then threaten to crash the economy. They got the money then gave themselves bonuses. I have yet to figure why conservatives support this - conservative media doesn't speak against it. It could be "more power to you" money mindset no matter how you get it.
* The "globalists" are repub outsourcers, killing Democratic measures to bring jobs back to America. Foreign trading "partners" practicing protectionism which repubs either embrace or don't care about. Fox not reporting this?
* Soros & other money support is much different than media scripts, talking points and policies handed down from Republican Central's secret meetings (Rove, the Kochs, ---). BTW, in case Fox didn't tell you, Democrats have as much right to monetary support as Repubs. Financial support, left at that, is a different issue than the simplistic top-down control and policy guidance of friendly allies like Rove and billionaire investors - a system favored by the conservative psyche.
* Outsourcing of jobs did not start with Obama. It started with rewarding businesses to do so through actual tax breaks. Democrats now trying, through legislation, to reward bringing jobs back and being obstructed by repubs. No Fox report on this?
* So Clinton not so liberal after all? NAFTA ws a republican proposal reported by bellowing conservative media as "stolen" from them by Clinton. How dare he take credit for their proposal. Fair-and-balanced Fox should refresh your memory on this.
Face it, the worse off repubs can help make the country, the better for them at election time (unless people stop relying on Fox for "information").
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