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Old 11-11-2008, 08:27 AM
 
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2 years of prep. In a concentration camp? Some people reach and exceed their potential. She met it as a small town Mayor, exceeded it as a Governor and was totally in over her head as a VP choice. You can't teach a 44 year old how to be professional. Doesn't she have to be a Governor? Not attending international relations classes. The VP and POTUS positions require experts in world politics not newcomers who get caught up in high school shenenigans and get pranked by comedians. This is not to discredit her service to Alaska but she is not smart enough to function on a national stage.
So the actions of comedians are part of your political decisions? That is a little depressing. Look at records, past actions. Not news clips and sound bites. It really scares me that people will base their entire perception of a person one one phone call, or one news story. The fact is past action is the greatest predictor of future action. A 30 second clip on the news is NOT something on which we should base our ideologies.
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Old 11-11-2008, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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To be fair,though, Obama had LOTS more money than McCain.
To be fair though President-elect Obama had a much higher hill to climb....Senator McCain had months and months, to work on his strategy, fund raise, put a groundswell of supporters to work, deliberate his VP selection and shore up his base and message - BEFORE President-elect Obama even WON the Nomination.

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Old 11-11-2008, 08:43 AM
 
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To be fair,though, Obama had LOTS more money than McCain.
much of it given to him by people like me, in $25 increments.
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Old 11-11-2008, 09:09 AM
 
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The election is over...why are we still making fun of Palin? It's almost like democrats don't have anything to talk about if they aren't allowed to bash republicans
Because they can.. There are plenty of Obama bashing threads (still) and he still has not started his job. If you can get people to stop calling him 'Dumbo' in thread titles or still question where he was born or try to link him with terrorist, please come back to this forum and let people know you were successful in reaching across the aisle, then you have a basis to get people to stop nailing Palin. As an aside, she is still in the political eye as she indicated she has not ruled out running again in 2012.
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Old 11-11-2008, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Turn Left at Greenland
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Sarah Palin invited all the hate on herself. And as long as we are talking about 2012- the hate on her will keep coming. During the campaign, she wanted to stand up on a podium and tell lies about Obama- but then gets a** hurt when someone campaigns hard against her or uncovers just how unprepared and out of touch she really is. Sure she can give you some innocent, "I'm a woman, I'm a hockey mom mainstream media"- but so what?

She stepped into the Lion's Den and then went on personal attack- get ready to be devoured

Palin doesn't stand a chance in 2010, in 2012, or ever

I see her being the mouthpiece for a new political party called the Christian Conservative Party ... Rush will go nuts for it.
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Old 11-11-2008, 09:21 AM
 
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much of it given to him by people like me, in $25 increments.
Still, he had a lot more money to sell himself to the American people than McCain did. Which only proves he had more money and was better at packaging and selling himself, not that he's better presidential material.
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Old 11-11-2008, 09:43 AM
 
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The County Palin Called The Real America ...





... voted 59% to 41% for Obama.

County Results - Election Center 2008 - Elections & Politics from CNN.com
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Old 11-11-2008, 09:46 AM
 
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Still, he had a lot more money to sell himself to the American people than McCain did. Which only proves he had more money and was better at packaging and selling himself, not that he's better presidential material.
My opinion is he is better presidential material than JMc.
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Old 11-11-2008, 09:48 AM
 
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From the start, Obama went with a bottom up grassroots campaign, while McCain started off with the big money and big establishments and big lobbyists.

Barack Obama: How He Did It | Newsweek Politics: Campaign 2008 | Newsweek.com


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Obama spoke first. "I just remember him saying that if he were to do this, he wanted to make sure that it was a different kind of campaign and consistent with his philosophy of ground up rather than top down," Jarrett recalled. As a community organizer in Chicago in the '80s, Obama had been influenced by the teachings of Saul Alinsky, a radical with a realist bent who once wrote, "Any revolutionary change must be preceded by a passive, affirmative, non-challenging attitude toward change among the mass of our people." Obama knew he had a knack for finding non-threatening ways to make people accept change—to begin with, his own skin color. As Jarrett recalled, Obama insisted that he wanted to run a grass-roots campaign because he had seen it work as a community organizer, and he wanted to try to take the model and go national. Rouse, the old Washington hand, had a slightly different recollection of the meeting: the grass-roots model wasn't really a choice. It was a necessity. Hillary Clinton would have the establishment behind her, which meant that she'd have the early money (or so it was thought), the endorsements and a national organization.
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Old 11-11-2008, 09:50 AM
 
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EXCELLENT find!

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The County Palin Called The Real America ...



... voted 59% to 41% for Obama.

County Results - Election Center 2008 - Elections & Politics from CNN.com
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