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"So the day before yesterday, there was a massive show of the National Druzhina's in Kiev.
And as difficult as it was to miss it, the Ukrainian media preferred to *not to notice* it.
The first reports on it started showing up may seven hours ago, in the most cautious manner.
Overall they are trying to be as cautious as possible to report about any marches, because god forbids some *mean people* might show up and set the editorial office on fire.
The Russian Media reacted with their usual rhetoric "thank you EU and US - the Nazi are marching in Kiev again."
We decided to look at this event from inside.
I am not going to give my personal opinion on it right now - you will see it all yourself with your own eyes.
I condensed the two hour show in this 11 minute video, and I have to say only one thing most definitely;
When the law enforcement structure of the state is not able to fulfill its functions, then other organization will step in. And these organizations are not all that nice and fluffy.
And another thing that I'd like to take note of, is how nicely everything is organized in these organizations.
And of course the size and capacities of it, that are hard to not to notice.
As for the rest - this is an opportunity for you to observe it all on your own and to come to your own conclusions.
Oh, yet one more thing I'd like to mention regarding the sanctification of the banners ( that you will see there,)
There is some seal out there, some seal that used to belong to one of the Kievan princes, that Beletsky ( Azov's founder) *redeemed* from Moscow, ( as Azov's representatives report.)
So enjoy the show"
( From 2:02.)
"I will show you how many of them are here, so you'd understand the numbers...
2:48. -Hello, what would you like to say
I'd like to say hello too and to let you too, that today it's going to be a great event... the show of the national druzhinas...
3:27 I want to let you know... that every subdivision will get its own banner, that it will carry with honor.
-I serve the Ukrainian nation.
-We will show to everyone that we are ready for the new accomplishments.
4:15; They are all (not?) working. Or are they all working in the same place?
Do you think it's possible for that many people to not to work anywhere?
There are some students among them, some people who still serve in the army and wanted to join Druzhinas.. And then some older people that are already in the workforce...
When there were the floods in the Western Ukraine lately, they went there too...
They fight the crimonal activites as well - such as illegal casinos and everything that connected to it...
5:36; Tell me who you are, and what are you doing....what's that you are doing?
-I am the head of the National Druzhina of the Zaporozhie city.
We are busy keeping the order on the streets of our city...
-Who are all these people, and who gathered them here?
-The majority of these people are the veterans of "anti-terrorist operation" ( read civil war in Donbass,) and concerned citizens, that keep the situation in the country close to their hearts.
-Who is financing you?
-All the guys are the volunteers. Many of them are working at other jobs...
And they dedicate their free time to patriotic... patriotic activities.
- What were the most notable things you did in Zaporozhie?
- We are volunteering... we are going after the illegal casinos... and the drug dealers... and separatists..
-People are asking - what does it mean to "establish order"?
- Well what do you mean by that.. When there is no order in your house, when there is trouble there, a man who is the master of the house, - it's his duty to establish the order.
That's why we.... all of us are fighting and will fight till the last drop, until there is an order in our country.
-What's an operation "Nerest" that took place recently?
- ( Happy that he has a prompt) Oh yes, operation "Nerest" was taking place in the city of Cherkassy, where for many years the poachers were fishing illegally.. in industrial size operations... We cane from all over Ukraine, and for the whole month we were catching the poachers and removing their nets...about 100 km of it all together. So a lot of poachers have quit their illegal activities.
At this point the inhabitants of Cherkassy are grateful to us, that we took care of this situation.
-So what's your attitude towards Poroshenko and Avakov ( the Minister of internal affairs)- all these people?
- More negative than positive.
...We have our own army. We are more of the opposition to them.
National police - it's good too, but we are more competent in certain things than them.
9:36. -What's your opinion of Poroshenko and Avakov?
-We don't consider them to be decent people, because they received power, but they didn't do anything positive.
That's why we have to get together to take care of things in Ukraine.
-Some people are writing to us that you are all not working.
- No, why, we have different people here among us - some of us are business people, some are blue collar workers, some are students...We are all people who want to live in a great country, in great Ukraine...
10:11 Today, after a year of successful service, the subdivisions that deserved it, are receiving their banners.
Now they are going to take oath to Ukraine.
Their banners are going to be consecrated with the seal of Svyatoslav, which is over 1,000 years old. Andrey Beletsky brought it back from Russia. He redeemed it.
..And this is yet another older video, the investigative journalism, so you'd have a better idea about the Ukrainian society since the 2014, and why the statements that Ukraine indeed is a nationalist state, and what role the Nazi ( or the Nationalists, Azov et al, - call it as you wish,) are playing in Ukraine.
So if you have 20 minutes to spare - be my guest ( or rather of that particular Ukrainian journalist/turned politician.)
He got the political asylum in EU already some time ago, so he out of all people knows what he is talking about.
Because Vlad seems to be in charge of a "Potemkin Military" (oligarchs selling substandard military tires at inflated prices as an example), he has authorized the import of 16,000 mercenary fighters from the Middle East.
Ukraine has responded by offering Russian pilots $1M to defect with their plane, and $500,000 with a helicopter. Love it.
Except it isn't funny. Europe is freaking out, and is preparing to try to survive nuclear war. And I'm not sure if C-D debaters got the news, that Vlad has threatened to nationalize all assets recently abandoned by the West. That would include retail outlets (IKEA--Sweden), factories (Germany), and oil refineries (US, Canada, etc.) in retaliation for the West having frozen his and his cronies' bank accounts.
This is like a deadly poker game, where each side's move ups the ante until someone folds.
A poster on another thread observed, that in a way, it would behoove Ukraine to accept the terms offered in recent negotiations. If Ukraine were to give up the eastern part, then all those pro-Russia voters would no longer be able to influence Ukraine's elections, for one thing. And it would save countless lives. It's clear the little man in the Kremlin has no qualms about bombing the citizenry into oblivion, so with that in mind, perhaps Ukraine's President should call it all off, rather than sacrifice his citizenry for the sake of trying to retain the eastern territory.
I mean, these are thousands of human lives we're talking about. What's more important, thousands of lives, or a certain amount of territory (filled with people hostile to the Uke regime anyway, and more than willing to vote for regime change if given the chance)?
Except it isn't funny. Europe is freaking out, and is preparing to try to survive nuclear war. And I'm not sure if C-D debaters got the news, that Vlad has threatened to nationalize all assets recently abandoned by the West. That would include retail outlets (IKEA--Sweden), factories (Germany), and oil refineries (US, Canada, etc.) in retaliation for the West having frozen his and his cronies' bank accounts.
This is like a deadly poker game, where each side's move ups the ante until someone folds.
A poster on another thread observed, that in a way, it would behoove Ukraine to accept the terms offered in recent negotiations. If Ukraine were to give up the eastern part, then all those pro-Russia voters would no longer be able to influence Ukraine's elections, for one thing. And it would save countless lives. It's clear the little man in the Kremlin has no qualms about bombing the citizenry into oblivion, so with that in mind, perhaps Ukraine's President should call it all off, rather than sacrifice his citizenry for the sake of trying to retain the eastern territory.
I mean, these are thousands of human lives we're talking about. What's more important, thousands of lives, or a certain amount of territory (filled with people hostile to the Uke regime anyway, and more than willing to vote for regime change if given the chance)?
There are people in Ukraine who would rather die than be subjugated by Russia and live under Russian rule. You cannot understand that. I do not fault the Ukrainians for this. I fault the Russians who are killing them with no justifucation.
Except it isn't funny. Europe is freaking out, and is preparing to try to survive nuclear war. And I'm not sure if C-D debaters got the news, that Vlad has threatened to nationalize all assets recently abandoned by the West. That would include retail outlets (IKEA--Sweden), factories (Germany), and oil refineries (US, Canada, etc.) in retaliation for the West having frozen his and his cronies' bank accounts.
This is like a deadly poker game, where each side's move ups the ante until someone folds.
A poster on another thread observed, that in a way, it would behoove Ukraine to accept the terms offered in recent negotiations. If Ukraine were to give up the eastern part, then all those pro-Russia voters would no longer be able to influence Ukraine's elections, for one thing. And it would save countless lives. It's clear the little man in the Kremlin has no qualms about bombing the citizenry into oblivion, so with that in mind, perhaps Ukraine's President should call it all off, rather than sacrifice his citizenry for the sake of trying to retain the eastern territory.
I mean, these are thousands of human lives we're talking about. What's more important, thousands of lives, or a certain amount of territory (filled with people hostile to the Uke regime anyway, and more than willing to vote for regime change if given the chance)?
Whoa there Nellie. I made no claim that anything was funny. You're jumping to conclusions that are miles off target. Just because I said I loved the Ukrainian response doesn't mean I think it's funny. It's a cheap way to acquire aircraft if there are any takers. I agree Zel has some tough choices to make, but so has NATO.
27 EU leaders met in Versailles yesterday and announced their collective intention to rid themselves of dependence on Russian coal, oil and gas and to build their military strength so as to rid themselves of dependence on other nations for defense. https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...russia-ukraine
There are people in Ukraine who would rather die than be subjugated by Russia and live under Russian rule. You cannot understand that. I do not fault the Ukrainians for this. I fault the Russians who are killing them with no justifucation.
It's not about the Ukrainians themselves.
It's about the forces that they host on Russia's border, under this puppet government.
An aspect of the war that seems to have been generally overlooked by the MSM, is the religious component.
No, I didn't know there was one either.......
The Ukrainian Orthodox Church has been tied to the Russian Orthodox Church (ROC) for 300 years.
In 2019 the big Orthodox boss, Bartholomew of Constantinople, ruled that the breakaway schism group in Ukraine were not subject to the dictat of Moscow, and were independent. Kiril, the boss in Moscow was pi$$ed, big time. Vlad has long been tight with Kiril, opened an ROC branch in the KGB HQ.
A former NSA analyst, himself an Ortho, said several years ago, that Vlad is on an Orthodox Jihad.
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