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Boris and Shnurov are absolutely different creators. Shnurov very precisely feels the mood of society, his works are always ironic, but it is a reflection of reality (some certain social groups).
Boris is the "klyukva" (cranberry). Gopnik, squat, Adidas, alteration of machines - it's all bull***t. This is not a modern Russian reality. Maybe it was true 20-25 years ago. I think this product for foreigners. Red Square, matryoshka, balalaika and bear with beer and... gopnik, squat, Adidas, alteration of machine.
Gopnik absent in modern Russia as a social stratum. They were in the 90s, but they have matured and become businessmen, politicians, police officers, or (more often) corpses.
Squatting is not a whim, it's part of the prison subculture. Even though I know it's quite popular to be photographed in this position, but I do not know why people do it.
Heels on ground, hands on knees, back is relaxed. This position allows you to relax on long hauls, when prisoners overcome a long way and they were not allowed to lie on the halts.
And Russians do not like Adidas particularly. Most of them can not buy the original stuff this brand. But in the 90s, the markets were filled with cheap Chinese and Vietnamese counterfeiting with three stripes. All wore this clothing (and Gopnik also) because they could not buy a normal quality clothing.
Also Russians do not transform cars like in Boris's video.
The guys from the Caucasus like to remove springs from their cars:
That's the class that "Boris" basically describes - it always has been, is and always will be in Russia - it was under a different name in Soviet times, in the nineties it probably transformed into "gopnik" and now it might be called something else, but the idea is still the same. And since "Boris" obviously markets his videos to foreign audience, he prefers to keep the term "gopnik," matryoshkas and balalaikas ( obviously.) At that, his videos are not all that bad - he has his own sense of humor and his own wisdom to share.
I see nothing wrong with that, since he strikes a chord with English-speaking youngsters for the most part, and Ariete here, who is improving his dancing and cooking skills, apparently...
P.S. Maxim, those Crimea pics are wonderful)))
Are you there now with your family?
This is Shnurov's "VIP" clip, ( from the last year minding you)))
I think that they do not Gopnik. They're just boys from poor families. Gopnik is a part of the criminal world. The prison jargon, special rules of conduct, etc. Gopnik have the purpose - to rob a person. The guys from the video robbing harmful saleswoman just because they do not have money. Almost Robinhoods.
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P.S. Maxim, those Crimea pics are wonderful)))
Southern coast of Crimea will not give you a chance to make a bad photo.
Nice photos from Crimea! I expected it to look more subtropical in vegetation.
150 years ago, Crimea was a swampy area where malaria was rampant. The system of canals allowed to drain swamps, get rid of malaria, and to plant the coast coniferous and subtropical plants. But the climate is too cold for the subtropical plants. Such plants sheltering from the cold winds and snow in the winter.
That's pretty strange considering estonian economy is in far better shape than the russian one.
I hear the Baltic States have a lot to owe to the fact that large parts of their populations have simply packed up and left for greener pastures. Their economy can't supply enough work.
I hear the Baltic States have a lot to owe to the fact that large parts of their populations have simply packed up and left for greener pastures. Their economy can't supply enough work.
I don't qualify that as a success.
There is enough work but just the salary are not that high, for example Finland is 80 km away and because of the similarities in culture and language it's easy for Estonians to go there and work. It's said around 100.000 of Estonians work there. As far as I know then Russian Estonians don't go there that much, they choose UK or Germany.
The truth is that if CIA did not spend billions on brainwashing and financing the extremist and gangster groups in Ukraine none of thousands of women and children would have been killed in the conflict.
Thank you Obama, don't forget to wash off Ukrainian and Russian blood from your hands.
Ok. lol. If CIA are such experts on brainwashing tens of millions of people in whole countries, who else did CIA brainwash according to you? Canada? All of EU?
It's funny when a country makes sound decisions for its own good, Russians think it's the work of CIA. Why don't you let CIA into your country, maybe you'll finally see some economic growth.
The best thing for everyone would be if Russia left Ukraine and started focusing on itself. It's very simple. We aren't the ones taking Rostov, which used to be Ukrainian territory in the 20s.
Beautiful photos, this last batch you posted, Maks! It looks like, judging by your earlier photos, too, that some wealthy people have built their own private homes/mansions in the area, correct?
Beautiful photos, this last batch you posted, Maks! It looks like, judging by your earlier photos, too, that some wealthy people have built their own private homes/mansions in the area, correct?
These are mainly hotels and resorts. But it is also possible to buy an apartment or house. It was always possible, before join to Russia.
Well, what I had in mind was that after 1991, I noticed that nice, 2-story homes started springing up around the country. People who had the money would build a private home for themselves. So I was wondering if some of that had gone on in the resort towns. I saw a few buildings that were small enough (relatively) that they could have been private homes. But perhaps they were boutique hotels.
The truth is? There was a lot of bottled up feelings of resentment since forever. Look back in history, in the 20s when Ukraine was independent. Ukraine never wanted to be part of Russia and never felt any "brotherly love" to you guys.
"part" of Ukraine claimed independence, the other part was in full support of the USSR, The part that claimed independence, and is the largest antagonizer now, is the Galicians Ukrainians, who also sided with Austria in WW1 against Ukrainians who sided with the Russian Empire.
Ukrainians have never rebelled against the Russian Empire, and Ukraine's only independent attempt was against the USSR, in which only half of modern day Ukraine rebelled, the other half was full support of the USSR.
There is no "never wanted to be part of Russia", they are both born of Kievian Rus, there is no want to be part of or not, they are intertwined with each other. Only the Galicians feel differently, and are different, and I have no idea why real Ukrainians let these tools hijack their identity.
And for a country with "no brotherly love", there are so many similarities, 99% of the world's population cannot even tell the difference between a Russian and Ukrainian, and there has been so much intermingling, many families have Russians and Ukrainians in them, and they are one of the most culturally aligned and similar groups in the world.
There has never been any bottled up resentment, hell, for most of history, a good portion of modern Ukraine was not even under Russian control, and the western part was not even under Soviet control until after WW2.
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