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According to the latest statistics, the Average height of Italian men is now 176.4 versus that of American men which is 176.2. Italian men had already surpassed British and French men in height years ago. the average stature of Italian men increases by about 1 cm every 10 years. Also Ethnic Northern Italians ARE Celtic and Germanic. Northern Italy was not even called Italy at the time of the Romans but it was called Gallia Cisalpina (Gaul this side of the Alps). Later the Goths and the Lombards, two germanic tribes settled in Northern Italy.
While the numbers of Ethnic Northern Italians have been reduced, there is now immigration from countries like Romania, Ukraine, Albania and the Former Yugoslavia and these people are on average taller than Southern Italians, and often also Northern Italians. So the average height of the country is increasing. The US is taking in a lot of immigrants who are shorter than their average and like the Northern Italians, the "original Americans" are being "bred out" (their government has instituted policies and regulations that are making this happen, whether the people want it or not; this is because they want the country to be "diverse" by law). The "original British" are also being bred out, because 25% of British Children in elementary schools are not the "original" British or even European. The average stature in the US has only increased two or three centimeters since the 1850s, while Italians have grown 12 cms in the same period. I grew up in a town that was 100% Northern Italian, 100% of the same religion, no diversity at all, and let me tell you, it was freaking beautiful (but you guys likely will never have the same experience).
I have already debunked these fantasies that Nothern Italians are Germanic, Germanic ancestry, even celtic ancestry is heavily exaggerated, Nothern Italians are at least 70-80% Itallic depending on the person/region, the rest of their ancestry may be Celtic but this is only an estimation, Cisalpine Gaull was absorbed into the Roman Empire, all . Cited genetic evidence.
I have already debunked these fantasies that Nothern Italians are Germanic, Germanic ancestry, even celtic ancestry is heavily exaggerated, Nothern Italians are at least 70-80% Itallic depending on the person/region, the rest of their ancestry may be Celtic but this is only an estimation, Cisalpine Gaull was absorbed into the Roman Empire, all . Cited genetic evidence.
It is cool that you have chosen very neutral websites with no bias whatsoever.
Okay sarcasm, so cited scientific evidence is a bias now? All that information has citations to the original source, all containing empirical ancestral genetic proof. Altes has a bias opinion with nothing to back up his claims at all, in complete denial of even being Italian.
Okay sarcasm, so cited scientific evidence is a bias now? All that information has citations to the original source, all containing empirical ancestral genetic proof. Altes has a bias opinion with nothing to back up his claims at all, in complete denial of even being Italian.
the pictures of the people on the first page do not quite match the reality of the people I see on the street every day. Looks like they tried to cancel any type of relatively light-haired / lighter skin people and just kept the really darker people (who exist, but everyone certainly does not looks like this here). This website is called "anti-padania" anyway.
Italians are extremely mixed, not everyone looks like Danny de Vito.
Okay sarcasm, so cited scientific evidence is a bias now? All that information has citations to the original source, all containing empirical ancestral genetic proof. Altes has a bias opinion with nothing to back up his claims at all, in complete denial of even being Italian.
Read Cavalli-Sforza "Chi siamo, la storia della diversità umana" or "Geni, popoli e lingue" or La transizione neolitica e la genetica di popolazione in Europa to understand that Italians are different between them or Barbujani's "Europei senza se e senza ma. Storie di neandertaliani e di immigrati". You can see to this article : Gli italiani sono il popolo con la varietà genetica più ricca d'Europa* - Repubblica.it
We are first in Europe for the genetic diversity thanks to Gallic, Venetic and Lombard ancestries too, who are the major part of Northern Italians. To have different ancestries doesn't mean Italy isn't a nation. Italy is a nation with a lot of different people and this is a historic and cultural wealth.
the pictures of the people on the first page do not quite match the reality of the people I see on the street every day. Looks like they tried to cancel any type of relatively light-haired / lighter skin people and just kept the really darker people (who exist, but everyone certainly does not looks like this here). This website is called "anti-padania" anyway.
Italians are extremely mixed, not everyone looks like Danny de Vito.
Obviously it doesn't, they purposely showed more swarthy Italians and specifically stated that on their page..........
Extremely mixed? 100% wrong, you are very ignorant. Being mixed between various different Caucasian ethnic groups doesn't mean you are racially mixed, for a Caucasian to be mixed race they need significant Negroid or East Asian ancestry.
The main European groups all have Neolithic ancestry that comes from the Middle East, British 18%, French 26%, Germans 23%, Spaniards 34%, Tuscan Italians 42% if you are counting all European ancestry from Mesolithic times and beyond. Nothern/Western Europeans are primarily a ethnic mix of Mesolithic migrators and Indo Europeans along with 15-25% Neolithic ancestry depending on the region, Nothern/Western Europe has Neolithic ancestry but the Nothern part of Eastern Europe/Baltics has very little, below 10%.
While Southern Europeans are primarily a mix of Neolithic people and Southern Europeans with some Celtic admixture depending on the region like Nothern Spain or Northern Italy, the Celtics originally migrated into Europe along side the Itallic tribes.
Why don't you try backing up your laughable claims with evidence? Oh wait, you can't since you have nothing but a bias bigoted ignorant opinion that isn't credible what so ever.
Read Cavalli-Sforza "Chi siamo, la storia della diversità umana" or "Geni, popoli e lingue" or La transizione neolitica e la genetica di popolazione in Europa to understand that Italians are different between them or Barbujani's "Europei senza se e senza ma. Storie di neandertaliani e di immigrati". You can see to this article : Gli italiani sono il popolo con la varietà genetica più ricca d'Europa* - Repubblica.it
We are first in Europe for the genetic diversity thanks to Gallic, Venetic and Lombard ancestries too, who are the major part of Northern Italians. To have different ancestries doesn't mean Italy isn't a nation. Italy is a nation with a lot of different people and this is a historic and cultural wealth.
I can't read Italian and I don't think it's proven those ancestries are a "major part" , especially German ancestry in Nothern Italy. Nothern Italians ancestry compositions are as follows by my estimation.
I can't read Italian and I don't think it's proven those ancestries are a "major part" , especially German ancestry in Nothern Italy. Nothern Italians ancestry compositions are as follows by my estimation.
You find traduction about the work Cavalli-Sforza who he explains clearly the different ethnics. You can see the site Europedia too, serious and interessant with the ethnics tie with the different genes. Northern Italians are mainly Gallics, Veneti and after Lombards. Of course, you find some Neolithic people (for example the Balzi Rossi in Liguria, Italy and France and apparently the found person was a giant) like in all places in Europe.
About the article of the newspaper "La Repubblica", unfortunately, I don't think you will find an english traduction but it says that you find a lot of varied ethnics people in Italy. Varied ethnics doesn't mean that people were extremely differents. Celtic, Germanic and Italic people have affinities a common past. The Ligures, the Basques, the Greeks too are very very closed with this previous groups.
For the Etruscans, they were mostly destroyed by Romans and Gallics.
Obviously it doesn't, they purposely showed more swarthy Italians and specifically stated that on their page..........
Extremely mixed? 100% wrong, you are very ignorant. Being mixed between various different Caucasian ethnic groups doesn't mean you are racially mixed, for a Caucasian to be mixed race they need significant Negroid or East Asian ancestry.
The main European groups all have Neolithic ancestry that comes from the Middle East, British 18%, French 26%, Germans 23%, Spaniards 34%, Tuscan Italians 42% if you are counting all European ancestry from Mesolithic times and beyond. Nothern/Western Europeans are primarily a ethnic mix of Mesolithic migrators and Indo Europeans along with 15-25% Neolithic ancestry depending on the region, Nothern/Western Europe has Neolithic ancestry but the Nothern part of Eastern Europe/Baltics has very little, below 10%.
While Southern Europeans are primarily a mix of Neolithic people and Southern Europeans with some Celtic admixture depending on the region like Nothern Spain or Northern Italy, the Celtics originally migrated into Europe along side the Itallic tribes.
Why don't you try backing up your laughable claims with evidence? Oh wait, you can't since you have nothing but a bias bigoted ignorant opinion that isn't credible what so ever.
You know you can also be nice and not aggressive towards other people, I would have no problem with that, really.
What I meant is that physically italians are very diverse ( I think I've said that about 47 times already). of course I haven't checked everyone's DNA data. Of course black people or asians are not "native", but i believe Italians are more physically diverse, than, say, Norwegians.
Obviously it doesn't, they purposely showed more swarthy Italians and specifically stated that on their page..........
Extremely mixed? 100% wrong, you are very ignorant. Being mixed between various different Caucasian ethnic groups doesn't mean you are racially mixed, for a Caucasian to be mixed race they need significant Negroid or East Asian ancestry.
The main European groups all have Neolithic ancestry that comes from the Middle East, British 18%, French 26%, Germans 23%, Spaniards 34%, Tuscan Italians 42% if you are counting all European ancestry from Mesolithic times and beyond. Nothern/Western Europeans are primarily a ethnic mix of Mesolithic migrators and Indo Europeans along with 15-25% Neolithic ancestry depending on the region, Nothern/Western Europe has Neolithic ancestry but the Nothern part of Eastern Europe/Baltics has very little, below 10%.
While Southern Europeans are primarily a mix of Neolithic people and Southern Europeans with some Celtic admixture depending on the region like Nothern Spain or Northern Italy, the Celtics originally migrated into Europe along side the Itallic tribes.
Why don't you try backing up your laughable claims with evidence? Oh wait, you can't since you have nothing but a bias bigoted ignorant opinion that isn't credible what so ever.
All you need is to get your English right!!!! By the term "extremely mixed", it doesn't necessarily mean "extremely racially mixed", see, there is a difference. Obviously ethnic Italians are Caucasoids (Whites), we all know that. However, they're genetically more diverse than Northern and even Central European groups. Many Italians might be "swarthy" or "darker-complected", due to the fact that the Neolithic ancestry is stronger in comparison to Northern, Eastern, Central European groups.
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