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Old 03-04-2015, 02:03 AM
 
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I am not saying it will, and I am not trying to stir a debate on whether it will or won't. I'm asking how do you feel about it?

It is common knowledge that European birth rates are way below replacement level. To solve this problem European governments are importing immigrants. Some (most?) of which are of a radically different cultural and ethnic background than indigenous Europeans. However, logic dictates that if one group is aging and not reproducing enough to sustain its population size, and another new group is both coming in large numbers and reproducing at high levels that eventually you will hit a point where the new group is bigger than the old one.

Again, I don't want to discuss if this will happen or not. There are many variables at play and a million things could happen between then and now. Also that topic is just going to get accusations of paranoia and racism thrown around because such is the world we live in.


I'm asking, how would you feel it for instance people of North African heritage became the largest group in France, or South Asians in Britain, or Arabs in Sweden? Would you be okay with this? Would you not be okay with this? Why or why not? How do you think the population at large would feel about this? What do you think would change about your country?


I am curious to see your answers.
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Old 03-04-2015, 02:14 AM
 
Location: rural south west UK
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it would change our nation out of all recognition. there will probably be a new English civil war long before that happens.

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Old 03-04-2015, 03:27 AM
 
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The same way my people "The natives of the Americas" felt when Europeans came in and exterminated us in enormous numbers and destroyed our culture and forced us to adopt theirs....

depressed and sad


what's ironic is that at the time Europeans though the culture of the natives of the americas was backwards, cavemen like...
fast forward 500 years and Europeans have adopted it and considered it new age, because its ecological and peaceful. (ignoring however the respect for mother nature, the focus towards harmony are Amerindian cultural traits!)
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Old 03-04-2015, 03:45 AM
 
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The same way my people "The natives of the Americas" felt when Europeans came in and exterminated us in enormous numbers and destroyed our culture and forced us to adopt theirs....

depressed and sad


what's ironic is that at the time Europeans though the culture of the natives of the americas was backwards, cavemen like...
fast forward 500 years and Europeans have adopted it and considered it new age, because its ecological and peaceful. (ignoring however the respect for mother nature, the focus towards harmony are Amerindian cultural traits!)
"Europeans", you mean Spaniards.
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Old 03-04-2015, 03:47 AM
 
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"Europeans", you mean Spaniards.
Spaniards, portuguese, french, dutch, british
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Old 03-04-2015, 03:50 AM
 
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fast forward 500 years and Europeans have adopted it and considered it new age, because its ecological and peaceful. (ignoring however the respect for mother nature, the focus towards harmony are Amerindian cultural traits!)
A lot of that noble savage stuff is a myth. The Natives damaged their environment too.
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Old 03-04-2015, 03:55 AM
 
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A lot of that noble savage stuff is a myth. The Natives damaged their environment too.
No, their religions and way of life was linked to the worshipping and praising of mother nature!!

their God was the sun, the moon, the water, the mountains!!!

noble savage stuff?

honey if anyone were savages those were the ones who got there on top of boats ready to rape and kill anything that moved and then forced their European religion down the ones left throats to the risk of facing death.

(sort of like ISIS does today in syria) I think the colonizers of Americas were thugs like ISIS... look at the way they behaved (I'll kill you or enslave you or rape you if you do not comply with what I want!) and then filled the continent with Africans importing them as slaves

I think is ridiculous than a typical jamaican is black and not a native of the americas!!! or that a typical Canadian is white and not a native of the americas!

This is why I have no sympathy for Europeans when they cry about immigration!

Europe should issue a formal apology!
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Old 03-04-2015, 04:00 AM
 
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The natives of the Americas were peaceful? They were constantly at war with each other, same as Europeans.
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Old 03-04-2015, 04:37 AM
 
Location: London, UK
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No, their religions and way of life was linked to the worshipping and praising of mother nature!!

their God was the sun, the moon, the water, the mountains!!!

noble savage stuff?

honey if anyone were savages those were the ones who got there on top of boats ready to rape and kill anything that moved and then forced their European religion down the ones left throats to the risk of facing death.

(sort of like ISIS does today in syria) I think the colonizers of Americas were thugs like ISIS... look at the way they behaved (I'll kill you or enslave you or rape you if you do not comply with what I want!) and then filled the continent with Africans importing them as slaves

I think is ridiculous than a typical jamaican is black and not a native of the americas!!! or that a typical Canadian is white and not a native of the americas!

This is why I have no sympathy for Europeans when they cry about immigration!

Europe should issue a formal apology!
True.

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The natives of the Americas were peaceful? They were constantly at war with each other, same as Europeans.
At least they didn't commit genocide.
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Old 03-04-2015, 05:02 AM
 
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No offense Irene, but you sound like the pot calling the kettle black. Native Americans are NOT Native! They didn't discover America nor lived in America since the beginning. Before Native Americans came to the Americas, the Vikings settled in the East Coast of North America and before them, the Asians (maybe Siberians). What did the "Native" Americans did to the Vikings and Siberians? That's right, they killed and raped their people. I do not know about the Siberians, but the Vikings fled to Greenland because they were being murdered by the so-called "peace loving" Native Americans. The Vikings desperately needed help and resources and the "Native" Americans slaughtered them to the point that the remaining survivors had to flee.

Fast forward about 500 years or so and Europeans enter the Americas. We do the SAME thing that the "Native" Americans did to the Vikings and Siberians and unlike them, you "natives" cry foul and demand an apology. LOL! What about apologizing to the people that you "natives" killed so many centuries ago? Honestly, the settling of the Americas is pretty much a loop from the Asians/Siberians > Vikings > "Native" Americans > Europeans > Americans > etc.

Oh, and not all "Native" American tribes were peace loving, you too took war criminals as slaves, raped your enemies' women, took their children, invaded other tribes, etc. We Europeans aren't the only monsters here. And just like you were the victims, so have Europeans. Europe has been a victim for the longest time through many wars, some of the Europeans were even sold into slavery to the Arabs. "Native" Americans have a bloody history just like any other nationality, whether you're African, European, or Asian.

So face it. Put the past behind you and stop asking for an apology and playing the victim card lest you want to demean your own people further.
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